The right not to vote is as strong as the right to vote.
Anyone else NOT voting today?
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The right not to vote is as strong as the right to vote.
How about the millions that choose not to get involved? Honestly I'm sick of people like you, with your feeling of moral superiority if you get "involved" to vote.
Do you honestly believe anyones life will be fundamentaly changed by whichever party comes to power? I wonder which party will not be involved with "duck houses" or "second properties".
It's a dog eat dog world, survival of the fittest and politicians are playing the game too. If you think for one minute a politician has your best interest at heart you're deluded.
I tell you what, I'll vote based on some idiot on TV that went to hand gesture school and can recite multiple antecdotes.
Disilussioned, you bet I am.
Threaten to vote BNP unless she gets her arse back in the kitchen!!!
Just out of interest, who's she voting for?
Buy her a flower or something. Women tend to get ideas into their heads now and again and end up running with it for a bit. It usually blows over.
Associate
I'm sure the parties will affect my life in some small ways, but I don't feel my vote makes any difference.
Caporegime
I think you need to look at the libdem's manifesto. What they want to do is introduce pay per mile, but at the same time remove tax discs and lower fuel duty so the average cost is the same.
So unless you do insane miles you wouldnt notice any difference it could even be cheaper.
If all you have heard is the pay per mile part then its just anti libdem scaremongering.
I've never understood why people don't vote yet are the first to complain when the government does something wrong. Very few people are likely to agree 100% with a parties manifesto but there's going to be something which suits your views the best, whether it be one of the big three or a fringe party or independent all it takes is some effort. Surely as part of living in this country it isn't too much to ask once every 4/5 years. I think its dangerous if too many people with moderate views don't vote then the people with extreme views (BNP etc) are going to be a higher percentage of overall votes. (edit: i do feel there should a a box for 'non of the above')
Ask her to enlighten you as to whether she can describe the policies she disagrees with, should be amusing.
I voted at 8am this morning, who the hell can't find an hour to read the policy summary's on the BBC website and then go vote? I'm positive they'll spend plenty of time winging about Government decisions later when they couldn't even decide to put pencil to paper.
If you're on this forum, reading this post, you've got time to vote.
Not many football teams end up running a government
.Perhaps its time this was addressed.
Why not vote based on your own research and intelligence? Whilst the TV debates haven't been great on many levels, they've done one incredibly useful thing and get more people involved.
Disillusioned? I'd like to say I feel sorry for you but I don't. It's pathetic that you care enough to whine about it on an internet forum, yet you can't spend five minutes to at least try and effect change. That is the exact problem isn't it. We can't effect change because people think it won't matter. If PR (or similar) and compulsory voting was in effect at least we'd have a better representation of people's interests.
I will say it one more time, perhaps it will then penetrate you. I . DO . NOT . CARE . WHO . I . GET . GROUPED . WITH . I do not care what comparisons you draw as your and the media's opinions (which I respect as such) means less than nothing to me. Nor do I care about some statistic on some channel or some newspaper. Making arbitrary comparisons to slobs lying in bed eating .. is that suppose to mean anything to me?
What exactly, and I ask this sincerely, would a spoilt ballot do? The votes will be counted, whichever party introduced as your government and the spoilt ballots will get a quick mention and perhaps an interview or two by some mouthpiece about 'hoping we can convince people next time with our policies'. By Monday it will not be mentioned again.
No I do not. I do care about people going against freedom of choice of others. Did I ask you who you voted for or try and influence you in some way? My view point was a passing remark. I even started typing a post to someone who was undecided urging him to vote. I never posted it as I got busy on the phone and closed the webpage. Vote or don't vote, neither will make a difference. You seem hellbent on criticising people on the choices they made freely.
I'm choosing to register my displeasure but not get involved. You are trying to get people to register it by spoiling a ballot. Perhaps let them decide for themselves? I can take a dump on the ballot and it will be mentioned a spoiled ballot and discarded into a statistic. I don't vote and it gets discarded into a statistic. Neither is any use, neither makes any difference.
And I've seen nothing from the chapters you typed convincing me spoiling a ballot is a worthwhile idea.
Caporegime
I voted this morning...voted for the BNP just for the lolz really
....Tories, Labour or Lib Dem??...as far as im concerned they are all as bad as each other,...full of false promises but then thats the same with any country i suppose.
But seriously i voted Conservative as they cant be any worse than what we have now unfortunately.
....Tories, Labour or Lib Dem??...as far as im concerned they are all as bad as each other,...full of false promises but then thats the same with any country i suppose.But seriously i voted Conservative as they cant be any worse than what we have now unfortunately.
As long as you don't start complaining a few months down the line that the current government is ****
People who don't vote have every right to complain, claiming otherwise is just a ruse to get people to turn out and support our flawed political process.
Will you deign to vote if PR is introduced?
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Im not voting. I have paid absolutely no attention to political happenings in the last few years, and am in by no stretch of the imagination in a position to make an education decision.