Anyone else waiting on the TCL x10 mini LED?

UEX · 11 Sep 2020 at 00:40

I heard it was a genuinely interesting looking set, possibly an oled rival. 1399 for a 75". Cant find much info anyone heard much?

JohnG7 · 11 Sep 2020 at 00:42

No as it still an LCD panel no matter what backlight it uses and that is any panels downfall (needing a backlight period).

UEX · 11 Sep 2020 at 08:59

JohnG7 said:
No as it still an LCD panel no matter what backlight it uses and that is any panels downfall (needing a backlight period).

Sure but as you reduce the controllable resolution of the leds you get "closer" to oled, I mean if you had an led per pixel it would almost be oled. No matter how good an oled picture its very hard to justify 2x the price imo.

JohnG7 · 11 Sep 2020 at 13:37

Hard to justify £1399 for any LCD today so Touché.

5punk3monk3y · 11 Sep 2020 at 17:46

UEX said:
Sure but as you reduce the controllable resolution of the leds you get "closer" to oled, I mean if you had an led per pixel it would almost be oled. No matter how good an oled picture its very hard to justify 2x the price imo.

Easily as it's 2x the quality of an LCD imo. To be honest a little digging and a 55" oled is certainly not 2x the price of a "decent" LCD

the wopster · 11 Sep 2020 at 21:41

UEX said:
Sure but as you reduce the controllable resolution of the leds you get "closer" to oled, I mean if you had an led per pixel it would almost be oled. No matter how good an oled picture its very hard to justify 2x the price imo.

I’m sure I read that yes it has a couple of 1000 LED but it still only had 300 zones

Poneros · 11 Sep 2020 at 23:53

This is what is known as the 8 series (2019) in the US last year. It was absolute garbage, even below traditional FALDs because TCL has no real good algorithms for them, so it under-performs compared to the hardware available. In other words - don't hold your breath.

Their 8 series this year is supposed to go 8K and have a new implementation they call "Vidrian" technology. But the 75" is like $10k (and not available yet), so...

https://www.displaydaily.com/article/display-daily/tcl-to-sell-ijp-qdoled-tvs-this-year

MiniLED has a bright (heh) future ahead, but it's not been done well yet. We'll see if Sony adopts it next year, that would be my hope for a decent miniLED set.

UEX · 12 Sep 2020 at 12:44

Poneros said:
This is what is known as the 8 series (2019) in the US last year. It was absolute garbage, even below traditional FALDs because TCL has no real good algorithms for them, so it under-performs compared to the hardware available. In other words - don't hold your breath.

Their 8 series this year is supposed to go 8K and have a new implementation they call "Vidrian" technology. But the 75" is like $10k (and not available yet), so...

https://www.displaydaily.com/article/display-daily/tcl-to-sell-ijp-qdoled-tvs-this-year

MiniLED has a bright (heh) future ahead, but it's not been done well yet. We'll see if Sony adopts it next year, that would be my hope for a decent miniLED set.

Thanks for that, very interesting. My dilemma is this, ive set myself a budget for a new lounge telly based on the algorithm 'dont be irresponsible with family budgets'. Its basically £1500. Im upgrading from a 55in 1080p Samsung from about 8 years ago so anything will likely be decent. But I want bang for buck, don't we all! Now simple answer was I guess an LG oled 55. But then I looked at 65 and then 75 and realised that a good 75in 4k would make me happy. Theres no way I'm going to splurge the 5 grand or so on the 77 oled. I could. But im not going to its silly. So now im seeing like well reviewed led 75s for not even a grand and im completely torn.

I dont wanna spend 1500 on effectively old tech but I cant see getting even 65in oled in my budget. So I just dunno what to do really. Any advice based on the above?

Poneros · 12 Sep 2020 at 13:36

@UEX what's the use case exactly - movies/games/TV/sports etc? And how bright is the environment you want to place it in? Will you require HDMI 2.1 or is that just a nice have? Any surround sound or other considerations?

Sony BRAVIA KD75XH9005BU is £1999 right now, and that's your best bet overall (and will probably come down more by Black Friday). It has good picture quality, it has hdmi 2.1, it's a Sony so it doesn't gimp itself in various modes, it has all the standards, and has a decent FALD so you can actually feel HDR being HDR.

Sony BRAVIA KD65XH9505BU is smaller but has better picture quality overall and it has better wide-angle viewing as well as handles reflections better if you have a lot of light shine through (or even just have white walls), though it does lack HDMI 2.1 and is £1699 right now and will also likely go below £1500 on BF.

So it's down to gaming prowess + size vs pure picture quality. Personally I'd always say go bigger once you have a decent FALD already.