Anyone have any info on the so called 'post covid / lockdown training / education' stuff?

The what?

I imagine there's going to be future legislation and an entire business model around selling covid red tape at some point. But i don't think that's what you're referring to?
It would be pretty mundane unrewarding job. Most company employees hate the H&S people as they are often job's worths.
 
The_Arbiter said:
The what?

I imagine there's going to be future legislation and an entire business model around selling covid red tape at some point. But i don't think that's what you're referring to?
It would be pretty mundane unrewarding job. Most company employees hate the H&S people as they are often job's worths.
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Yes, hello, I am a jobsworth, and no one will give me a job because I have no I.T experience.

I was thinking I could use this thing to get some I.T experience.

The government was going to offer free education or training to adults after the lockdown to help people with finding work again. Even if this would be entirely useless for most people, it could help me significantly.
 
Ah, my bad. Your title misled me, you want I.T experience, and/or knowledge?

Seems like there's endless info on here in regards to that. If it were me and i were passionate about programming i'd get some books, look on youtube, and learn and practice in my spare time. Then see if any game modding groups need a hand, as they always do! Easy, free experience. Then if you can talk the talk and show your work/portfolio, getting your foot in the door would be the only actual challenge.

Seems like lots of people on here have had the challenge of getting experience.

I can't imagine anything funded by the government being any good, it never seems to be :P

I might take a look at the list, but everything is all about experience in whatever i look at. (Non I.T roles).
 
The_Arbiter said:
Ah, my bad. Your title misled me, you want I.T experience, and/or knowledge?

Seems like there's endless info on here in regards to that. If it were me and i were passionate about programming i'd get some books, look on youtube, and learn and practice in my spare time. Then see if any game modding groups need a hand, as they always do! Easy, free experience. Then if you can talk the talk and show your work/portfolio, getting your foot in the door would be the only actual challenge.

Seems like lots of people on here have had the challenge of getting experience.

I can't imagine anything funded by the government being any good, it never seems to be :p

I might take a look at the list, but everything is all about experience in whatever i look at. (Non I.T roles).
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It has to be something an employer would consider valid - courses still take a second place to any actual work experience, something like an NVQ would be much better but no clue at all how to even get onto one of those.

Programming I tried CS50 and am useless. General using a computer I have no issue, but employers nowadays overspecify I.T requirements just to be a receptionist.

I already applied and went for an Interview for a Leeds Met for a course in Video Game design or something, thinking I could do it for free while on benefits. I could only do it for free until age 26 and was already older than that, and they straight up told me it would not be worth paying to study anything A level equivalent for me.
 
Funnily enough i was just browsing my area on indeed and saw this.

https://www.civilservicejobs.servic...=124631&utm_source=indeed.com&utm_medium=free

Dunno if that would cover your area, i only skim read it. But mentions remote working, and merely asks for dedication/enthusiasm. Maybe some other apprenticeships in similar roles. You just have to keep looking the various sites.

Lots of thread on here about various I.T roles that are worth a read. Doesn't appear to be an easy route to go, but if you enjoy it you'll get there.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
I already applied and went for an Interview for a Leeds Met for a course in Video Game design or something, thinking I could do it for free while on benefits. I could only do it for free until age 26 and was already older than that, and they straight up told me it would not be worth paying to study anything A level equivalent for me.
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If you've already got a-levels or equivalent then why not consider a degree?

You could do one in your spare time with the Open University or with the University of London External program.

Nothing to stop you from applying for jobs when you're part way through too, these things are fairly flexible.
 
dowie said:
If you've already got a-levels or equivalent then why not consider a degree?

You could do one in your spare time with the Open University or with the University of London External program.

Nothing to stop you from applying for jobs when you're part way through too, these things are fairly flexible.
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Already got a degree, and employers don't consider that valid I.T experience either.

Can't get a second student loan.

I've been trying to figure out how to get funded valid experience that employers would actually want for a long time - and there's pretty much nothing unless I pay loads of money to do it.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Already got a degree, and employers don't consider that valid I.T experience either.
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What do you mean by that? Most employers value a degree.

Why would anyone confuse a degree and work experience and what relevance does that have?

What subject is the degree in?

BallistixOnZ490 said:
Can't get a second student loan.
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You can if you do a master's degree.

BallistixOnZ490 said:
I've been trying to figure out how to get funded valid experience that employers would actually want for a long time - and there's pretty much nothing unless I pay loads of money to do it.
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If you're talking about work experience then you get that by working. If you're talking about qualifications then there are a whole load of options out there from formal academic qualifications to MOOCs.
 
Only got a 3rd, can't do a masters.

Can only get reception or admin type work, no employers for that care about your degree and only value I.T experience.

I can't get a job in reception or admin without I.T work experience. Been the case pre lockdown for a few years, going to try again after second vaccination.
 
BallistixOnZ490 said:
Only got a 3rd, can't do a masters.

Can only get reception or admin type work, no employers for that care about your degree and only value I.T experience.

I can't get a job in reception or admin without I.T work experience. Been the case pre lockdown for a few years, going to try again after second vaccination.
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What subject was your degree in? Was there any technical component to it?

Why don't you get some IT work experience?

A reception or admin job won't likely help you. IT support type roles are how lots of people without suitable quals for grad schemes etc.. get started in IT work.
 
Well what courses were you applying for and what subject did you study?

It doesn't look like maths and coding are necessary for the above, depending on the module selection at least. I thought from the OP that you were interested in IT.
 
dowie said:
Well what courses were you applying for and what subject did you study?

It doesn't look like maths and coding are necessary for the above, depending on the module selection at least. I thought from the OP that you were interested in IT.
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Yes non coding.

I did junky music technology and the masters for that wants a 2.1.

And yea no, music tech does not classify as valid I.T experience.

I played an instrument up to uni and then had no clue what I was doing when plonked in front of Protools.

I'm much better at it now after hobby composing on my PC for some time, but they still need a 2.1.
 
You don't need a student loan or a degree to get access to a university level education any more.

Find a relevant course on Coursera, do it. They are typically free, and you just pay a digital certificate at the end if you pass it (typically <$100), but there are financial aid options if you can't afford that.

Stuff like : Fundamentals of Computing | Coursera if you're wanting to get into coding.

I did the Stanford University Machine Learning Course a while back. It's not a trivial amount of work, you need to be committed, but it's free and available to anyone.
 
mid_gen said:
You don't need a student loan or a degree to get access to a university level education any more.
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I did the Stanford University Machine Learning Course a while back. It's not a trivial amount of work, you need to be committed, but it's free and available to anyone.
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Just keep in mind, lots of these courses are watered-down versions of the university equivalents including that Stanford one. Coursera does aim to be accessible and I guess that was one of the first courses offered, they don't want to put people off.
 
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