Anyone here run a PS3 through a monitor?

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Hooked up the PS3 to a 22" monitor. Downloaded the "Need for speed shift" demo but it looked blurry. I checked the info screen on the monitor and noticed it runs at 720p and not 1080p that I set the PS3 to. Blurays run at 1080p and look great.

So the question is this - does the PS3 upscale the image to 1080p for games or does it lock the resolution to 720p and leave the monitor to upscale it. If so, why does my monitor show the game is running at 720p and not 1080p? That would make sense to me as to why the games look blurred as when using a PC and a game isnt set to the monitors native resolution I see the same thing.

Which leads me to me last question - is there any point in having a 1080p monitor for using the PS3 through if it just runs games at 720p most of the time? Not running at the monitors native resolution results in blurred graphics and ruins the experience :(

Cheers :)
 
Totality said:
Hooked up the PS3 to a 22" monitor. Downloaded the "Need for speed shift" demo but it looked blurry. I checked the info screen on the monitor and noticed it runs at 720p and not 1080p that I set the PS3 to. Blurays run at 1080p and look great.

So the question is this - does the PS3 upscale the image to 1080p for games or does it lock the resolution to 720p and leave the monitor to upscale it. If so, why does my monitor show the game is running at 720p and not 1080p? That would make sense to me as to why the games look blurred as when using a PC and a game isnt set to the monitors native resolution I see the same thing.

Which leads me to me last question - is there any point in having a 1080p monitor for using the PS3 through if it just runs games at 720p most of the time? Not running at the monitors native resolution results in blurred graphics and ruins the experience :(

Cheers :)
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Most games are 720p, if you don't like the scaling/blurring, see if your monitor has a Native mode that adds borders for the "missing" resolution.

What resolution/make etc is your monitor (maybe someone with the same one can offer help)?

As to your last question, there is a point, which you have already highlighted yourself (hint rhymes with "clue bay" :D).


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It's a Samsung P2250 so runs natively at 1920x1080. Bought it as I assumed that the PS3 would run games at 1080 but didnt realise it locks games down in resolution to keep frame rates up! Thought they ran like PCs.

I can't see a way to add the black bars to do 1:1 scaling so assume its not supported. Think I'm going to take it back and pick up a 22" LCD TV for running the PS3 through and that way it runs at 720p natively and just have a monitor for the PC! Wish I didnt have to live in a shared place so I could have my own monster TV downstairs!

EDIT: What a difference 20% can make lol. Noticed the sharpness was set to 80% on the monitor but thought nothing of it. Put it up to 100% and its loads better. Not as good as native res 1080p but much more playable. The monitor itself is awsome and 1080p blurays are amazing along with PC so I reckon leaving it at 100% for games and notching it down for other stuff will be the way forward. It's not perfect but for £160 I don't think I'll do much better :) Just downloading the PES demo to see how that looks.

Ghostbusters looks SHOCKING! I'm assuming that's just the game though?!
 
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Get a monitor with HDMI and if you shop around for a few quid more you could get a 24"

I noticed your model only has DVI/VGA which is strange for a 1080p display.
 
A mate runs his PS3 through his Kuro 5090 Plasma. NFSS runs at 1080p as does COD MW2. The Kuro displays the res, swap to Fuel and the Kuro shows 720p.
 
Mr Latte said:
Get a monitor with HDMI and if you shop around for a few quid more you could get a 24"

I noticed your model only has DVI/VGA which is strange for a 1080p display.
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HatMan said:
A mate runs his PS3 through his Kuro 5090 Plasma. NFSS runs at 1080p as does COD MW2. The Kuro displays the res, swap to Fuel and the Kuro shows 720p.
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Thanks as you both made me wonder if using a HDMI->DVI cable could be the problem. I've found the link here - http://playstation.about.com/od/ps3/a/PS3firmware180.htm

Sony has released the latest version of the PlayStation 3 (PS3) firmware. Version 1.80 features upscaling of PlayStation and PlayStation 2 games, and standard DVD movies up to full 1080p HD resolution when viewed on a HD TV set using HDMI inputs. The PS3 will not upscale to 1080p using component cables or DVI
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Can anyone confirm that running a HDMI->DVI cable results in no upscaling? The PS3 menus run at 1080p but maybe the games dont upscale when using DVI?
 
Actually it talks rubbish in the page above I found. Avforums has the answers. The PS3 wont upscale the image to 1080p and will leave it to the monitor.

OK , tested this out checking the source signal information on my projector and the results are as people have been saying:

two games that are blatently internally rendered at 720p ish

NBA 09 - Does not permit up-scaling to 1080p. output is 720p at best . if you remove everything except 1080p and the mandatory 576p in video setting then it outputs the game at 576p .

Ninja Gaiden Sigma - Does scaling if you have 1080p and 720p selected it will output at 1080p upscaled to 1080p . I removed 1080p so it outputs 720p so the hardware scaler in my projector upscales it to 1080p and the image is practically the same although the projector seems to smooth out the image a bit more making jaggies less apparent but at the expense of a crisper image.

bottom line if the game supports it, it will upscale 720p to 1080p if not it switches the output to 720p .

'Next gen gaming starts with 1080p and the PS3', Sony *cough* :s
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As the above says if the game supports it then it will only upscale to 1080p
Very few games are 1080p but Wipeout is one of the best examples.

I dont think the DVI will make much difference but moreso that your monitor perhaps doesnt have that great of a scaler in it particulary as it seems obvious it is more of a PC display (hence no HDMI) and works best with a native 1920x1080 resolution.

Therefore your PS3 is outputting 720p with some games and the monitor being limited has to scale this to its native 1080p
Try the Wipeout demo or Game and run it with 1080p and then 720p outputs to compare. This will show how good your display is with 720p being upscaled by the monitor.

Any monitor that has a HDMI is likely to support 720p with better scaling so worth keeping in mind.
I could recommend the iiyama 2470HDS which are fairly affordable 1080p 24" models inc small speakers as well.
 
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TFT monitors usually have worse scalers than LCD TV's

What you can try is to uncheck 720p as a possible resolution, that way you force the game to run at 1080p, if it can't run at 1080p it will drop down to 576p though.
 
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TFT monitors usually have worse scalers than LCD TV's

What you can try is to uncheck 720p as a possible resolution, that way you force the game to run at 1080p, if it can't run at 1080p it will drop down to 576p though.
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Hehe yeah I tried that last night and it dropped to 576p for Need for Speed shift. Now that looked awful :D

I just sit back from the monitor like I would do for a TV of that size and it looks good. I'm just used to using a PC so sit too close I reckon. Playing PES 2010 from my bed looked great even though that was 720p.

Am contemplating taking the monitor back and getting a 22" LCD TV but given the games look fine when sitting back from the monitor I don't really think its worth the loss of quality for TV use, 1080p loss for bluray and the extra £50 to get one.
 
HDMI > DVI doesn't work on the PS3 unless your monitor supports HDCP?

Or have they dropped that rule when playing games now?
 
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HDMI > DVI doesn't work on the PS3 unless your monitor supports HDCP?

Or have they dropped that rule when playing games now?
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My monitor has HDCP so thats not a problem. As far as I'm aware they haven't dropped it which is why I had to find one that supported it!
 
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