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Anyones factory overclocked 3090 freezing?

Legojon

Legojon

Legojon

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I've got the Palit 3090 Gamerock OC. It has the dual bios switch on it for performance vs quiet. Performance seems to hover the boost around 1995-2010mhz. Quiet aims for 1930-1965mhz. I can only get about 15 minutes of AC Valhalla on the perfomance bios before it freezes. But just played for 2 hours on the quiet bios (no freezes). No biggie, cause the performance difference is tiny. But annoying to pay for the OC card and it can't even handle the factory overclock.

If I choose the performance bios, is there anything I can do to help? E.g. will increasing the power limit slider help? I read the gpu voltage slider doesn't do anything on these type of cards.
 
Legojon said:
I've got the Palit 3090 Gamerock OC. It has the dual bios switch on it for performance vs quiet. Performance seems to hover the boost around 1995-2010mhz. Quiet aims for 1930-1965mhz. I can only get about 15 minutes of AC Valhalla on the perfomance bios before it freezes. But just played for 2 hours on the quiet bios (no freezes). No biggie, cause the performance difference is tiny. But annoying to pay for the OC card and it can't even handle the factory overclock.

If I choose the performance bios, is there anything I can do to help? E.g. will increasing the power limit slider help? I read the gpu voltage slider doesn't do anything on these type of cards.
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I could be wrong but I'm sure many people on YouTube found the same problem with the memory on these cards the OC mode couldn't handle it. Theirs a distinct difference between how it's placed on the different brands of cards and it can cause the issues you've mentioned but again I'm not sure.
 
That's a pretty good OC on performance mode so, shame it isnt stable. Have you tried raising the voltage limts and and putting fans on 100% to see if it will stop crashing ?
 
Sipha said:
That's a pretty good OC on performance mode so, shame it isnt stable. Have you tried raising the voltage limts and and putting fans on 100% to see if it will stop crashing ?
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I'll give it a try, cheers. I kind of gave up on the voltage offset because the reported voltage in the software didn't change. But not to say it doesn't actually do anything.

vapor matt said:
I have a game rock 3090 oc and its fine on the OC setting, timespy scorehttp://www.3dmark.com/spy/15836640 , never freezes and clocks on top of standard even, but it does have room to breath, would like a water block for it, but no one produces one for it yet.
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Maybe mine's just not as good a sample. I've got a Thermaltake C33 case so I wouldn't say it was cramped, at max usage / 2010mhz core it's sitting at around 71-73 degrees.

I haven't really tried any other games, so it could be AC. But I'm reluctant to point the finger when I've played 20 hours on the quiet bios without a single crash.
 
vapor matt said:
I didnt know there was a bios up date. will have a look, what did it change?
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Ironically Palits site is down at the moment, so I can't post the link. As usual, there are no release notes, so anyones guess what it does. Also, not sure if it was the wiset moves, I applied it whilst the performance bios was selected. I don't know if it updates both bios's or just the currently selected one. But the quiet and performance have different version numbers. So I assume just the selected - which is strange they don't say which one to apply it to.

Perfomance was 94.02.26.08.88 and now it's 94.02.42.00.A1.
Quiet I didn't check before the update. But right now it's 94.02.26.08.89.
 
Legojon said:
Ironically Palits site is down at the moment, so I can't post the link. As usual, there are no release notes, so anyones guess what it does. Also, not sure if it was the wiset moves, I applied it whilst the performance bios was selected. I don't know if it updates both bios's or just the currently selected one. But the quiet and performance have different version numbers. So I assume just the selected - which is strange they don't say which one to apply it to.

Perfomance was 94.02.26.08.88 and now it's 94.02.42.00.A1.
Quiet I didn't check before the update. But right now it's 94.02.26.08.89.
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Thanks for that, will take a look when the site is back up. cheers!
 
I believe I have this problem this guy is describing. I've had it freeze again using the quiet bios. The consistent thing they have in common is the drop in gpu speed. In the latest freeze, I dropped from 1950mhz down to 1500mhz (which he reckons causes a voltage drop) opening the map and it froze. The solution he suggests is locking the voltage. But Afterburner can't seem to read the voltage of the Palit card. For now I've increased gpu voltage offset and power target to max. But I'm not hopeful. Really annoying on a graphics card that costs more than the rest of my PC put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YvuxE0xl4&t=832s
 
Legojon said:
I believe I have this problem this guy is describing. I've had it freeze again using the quiet bios. The consistent thing they have in common is the drop in gpu speed. In the latest freeze, I dropped from 1950mhz down to 1500mhz (which he reckons causes a voltage drop) opening the map and it froze. The solution he suggests is locking the voltage. But Afterburner can't seem to read the voltage of the Palit card. For now I've increased gpu voltage offset and power target to max. But I'm not hopeful. Really annoying on a graphics card that costs more than the rest of my PC put together.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--YvuxE0xl4&t=832s
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I dont have this problem, default bios 1 runs max overclock and its rock solid stable. at idle my GPU is 743mv boosts up and stays there, what temp does your card get to in game?
 
vapor matt said:
I dont have this problem, default bios 1 runs max overclock and its rock solid stable. at idle my GPU is 743mv boosts up and stays there, what temp does your card get to in game?
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Same, 743mv idle. With the max voltage offset, it's currently sitting at 1087mv under boost (1056 with offset at 0). The hottest I've seen it get is 73 degrees.
 
I guess there are other factors as well, such as refresh rate and vsync. E.g. I've got vsync on, so my fps is locked at 60. So in menus, etc the card ramps down quickly. So I guess if I turned vsync off, it wouldn't.
 
I have 3 gamerock 3090's, 1 is an oc model 420w performance bios and 370w quiet and 2 regular model with 370w bios as the performance setting.

OC model works fine not a problem, I also flashed one of the none oc models with the oc bios and that works fine too.

Maybe you have some other issue with your setup, maybe your system ram is not stable or cpu overclock etc, check your system at stock settings and see if you have problems.

The cards so far are solid and I even stuck the 500w bios on the oc for a while and removed it as it made no difference that was worth keeping it at 500w.


Also try other games, could be AC doing it, you can't judge a card by one game, try different games and benchmark tools to check if all is stable.
 
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Purgatory said:
Maybe you have some other issue with your setup, maybe your system ram is not stable or cpu overclock etc, check your system at stock settings and see if you have problems. Also try other games, could be AC doing it, you can't judge a card by one game, try different games and benchmark tools to check if all is stable.
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Thanks, I will double check the memory stability (CPU isn't oc'd). Although I'm fairly confident with the PC as I've not had any issues with it until swapping the 1080 for a 3090. And I didn't have any problems with AC previously... however, annoyingly they patched AC from 1.2 to 1.4 at the same time I upgraded GPU. So your right, it is entirely possible it's just this one game. I've just bought Borderlands 3, so will see how that goes as well.

Might just be coincidence, but I managed to play AC for a couple of hours tonight with the voltage offset slider maxed. Usually I can only get about 15 mins in on the performance bios.
 
Just thought I'd post back to update this thread. Um, so yeah, it may have been the game LOL. Ubisoft released a big patch (1.1.0) which included stability fixes and I've had one crash in about 30 hours (which sent an error report to Ubisoft so believe that was also the game).

Currently got it set to the performance bios, maxed the sliders for Power Target and GPU offset. It boosts up to 2080mhz. But generally gets hot and settles around 1980mhz. Which I'm happy with.
 
It has been a good long while since I last posted here. I have an MSI 3090 Gaming Trio X which is OC as standard. I had the odd crash in ACV, maybe one every 3 or 4 hours until I got to a particular area in the "Storming the walls" mission and a fight with Fulke in particular as I was leaving (no spoilers) the underground area. I then kept getting lock ups (including a full black screen PC reboot) and only just managed to complete the quest. I thought it was probably the game itself - my graphics card never got very hot but googled and came across someone with a 3090 on Reddit mentioning they downclocked their card (or actually reduced the clock to no more than +74. No more lock ups. So I downclocked mine by 15 (just a test really). I have only had one lock up since then and it was almost cerainly because on that one occassion I'd forgotten to load the Afterburner profile.

I should point out that I haven't had a crash or lock up in anything else but ACV is the only game I've played very extensively since getting the 3090. Time will tell although I'm tempted to just leave it at -15.
 
parisv said:
how do you change the gamerock to performance mode?
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Near the Nvlink fingers on the back plate is a little cut out window with a switch for the dual bios, position 1 is performance and position 2 is quiet.

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