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anything positive about Haswell

sybaris

sybaris

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Looking to up grade my Q9550.
I waited for Haswell to come out but reading the reviews and posts, it seems they run a bit on the hot side.
Are there any positives about it or is it time to think about AMD?
I'm looking to build a new rig for around £1000 (give or take) and intend for it to last at least 4 years, after which I will build my next one from scratch, so no worries about mid life upgrades.

So shall I go Haswell, AMD or an i7 3770k if I can still get one at a decent price?
 
Haswell is a great chip man!!! More efficient clock for clock than anything out there. Interesting to Overclock with straps and BLK options and many memory dividers. It also has a strong strong IMC which means it clocks memory like a dream. The PCI lanes are strong too if your a gamer.
 
sybaris said:
Looking to up grade my Q9550.
I waited for Haswell to come out but reading the reviews and posts, it seems they run a bit on the hot side.
Are there any positives about it or is it time to think about AMD?
I'm looking to build a new rig for around £1000 (give or take) and intend for it to last at least 4 years, after which I will build my next one from scratch, so no worries about mid life upgrades.

So shall I go Haswell, AMD or an i7 3770k if I can still get one at a decent price?
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Are you going to overclock your new chip? Much of the negative reaction to Haswell has been to do with low over-clockability and temperature problems when overclocked. If not, then you're getting a very fast chip (AMD single thread speeds are much lower).
 
All the negativity is around people's overclocking expectations. But I'm loving my 4770k, it's a great performing chip. The motherboards are nice as well, the Gigabyte Z87 OC I have is just brilliant and I recommend it.

From a Q9550 you'll see a huge leap in performance, plenty to last the four year lifespan that you're after. And as for over clocking prowess, well most of them will do 4.2Ghz with ease and many will do more. Which is nothing to be sneezed at.
 
You will see a huge boost indeed going from Q9550 to Haswell.

Took these Cinebench 11.5 results from other thread for comparison purposes:

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=18517284

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My Q9650@4Ghz Cinebench results:

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CineBench CPU Score (overclock results):

[email protected] 10.12
[email protected] 3.92

The results speak for themselves. Ofcourse the whole architecture also has to be taken into consideration and not just cpu :cool:
 
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^^

Really goes to show that the old Core 2 Quad/775 has run it's course, although it's still useful for general usage and games not requiring intensive cpu usage.
 
Lovely chip. Powerful, cool (at stock) and quiet.

And yes, nice PCIe lanes. My 7850 has seen a massive improvement. Very noticeable to the eye, not just benches.
 
Its a disappointment as its not the move forward many were hoping for at a slight premium over what it should have been replacing.

As an upgrade to 775 setups, if buying new its still the obvious choice.
 
at end of day it depends on what you upgrading from

if you on a older intel 775 or phenom 2 then yes its a good upgrade.
 
6.73 with a 4670k @4 ghz
5 with x6 1055t @ stock

I upgraded from a x6 1055t @stock and there's no real difference in widows or gaming apart from old games that only use 1 core and that's only because amd were so **** core for core compared to intel even back in the i7 920 days
 
I would like to clock it to 4.5 ghz but from the posts I read, I am a little put off.
My trusty Q9550 has been great and it is wrench to replace it and that time is approaching fast. I don't want an oven, though but I would like fast speeds.
 
smilertoo said:
While the haswell core itself runs very hot the chip as a whole generates less heat than older cpus.
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60c max load @ 4ghz with 1.147 vcore and a heatsink that claims upto 160w tdp (sr1 pro not high end though but gives you an idea)
stays in the low 50s gaming, probably idles about 5-7c above the ambient temp of my room, right now its sitting at 30-31c but I feel really hot so I'm guessing my rooms at least in the low 20's

BTW was getting about 52c max load stock and about 45ish gaming , obviously the same idle temps as I have speed step on or whatever its called and my cpu idles down to 798mhz
 
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depends what games you play at end of day skyrim shows a massive boost , as does arma , as does any game which needs cpu horse power.
 
~>Dg<~ said:
depends what games you play at end of day skyrim shows a massive boost , as does arma , as does any game which needs cpu horse power.
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I've not played skyrim since upgrading and I don't play arma.

the only games I got any noticeable fps boost in so far are firefall (55-60 up from 30-40fps and world of tanks (wot only uses 1 core i jumped from about 30-40fps upto 60-70)
I only have a 7850 at 1ghz though other people with better GPU's might see slightly better gains

I'll launch skyrim and see what my fps is
 
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