Anyway to 'move' letterbox bars, both to the top?

Chris1712 · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:21

Hey all, I'm going to be making some 2.35:1 masks for my projection screen soon and have a question.

Ideally, I want to lense shift the whole (2.35:1) picture down so I just have to make one large mask along the top. My screen is also a bit high up so this will also help.

However, this leaves the problem of the bottom black bar being projected along the wall behind, which is a light magnolia and will be distracting!
So, is there anyway via any software to whack a 2.35:1 film in a 16:9 frame but with no lower letterbox?

This is what i mean.

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that?

Alternatively, are there any players out there that will do this?
Oor even better a skin/mod for MPC-HC that allow me to run the 2.35:1 completely frameless. Kind of like MPC in minimal mode, only without the framed edge.

daz · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:26

You might be able to do that with some ffdshow post processing?

Ev0 · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:30

As far as I know on current films shot in 2.35:1 those bars are 'hard coded' as such so can't be moved as they are just there on the film.

This quote is taken from a review of that new Phillips mega widescreen tv:

"The problem is that when 2.35:1 films are broadcast or encoded onto Blu-ray, the black bars necessary to make the source work with a 16:9 TV are built into the actual source picture. In other words, the black bars aren't created by your TV, but rather added, line by line, to the source, as if they were parts of the main image."

So you would need to do some post processing on the image, no idea how though!

Chris1712 · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:36

Ev0 said:
As far as I know on current films shot in 2.35:1 those bars are 'hard coded' as such so can't be moved as they are just there on the film.

This quote is taken from a review of that new Phillips mega widescreen tv:

"The problem is that when 2.35:1 films are broadcast or encoded onto Blu-ray, the black bars necessary to make the source work with a 16:9 TV are built into the actual source picture. In other words, the black bars aren't created by your TV, but rather added, line by line, to the source, as if they were parts of the main image."

So you would need to do some post processing on the image, no idea how though!

All the blu's/hd-dvd's I rip I crop to the right AR, and then the player adds the bars when I go fullscreen. So it is possible, I'm thinking ffdshow aswell.

daz · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:38

Is there a 'transpose' setting in ffdshow?

Chris1712 · 3 Jul 2009 at 19:50

Wahey turns out you can move the frame up and down in MPC-HC! Its in the pan and scan section, can move it without changing its size etc.

Ev0 · 3 Jul 2009 at 21:10

Chris1712 said:
Wahey turns out you can move the frame up and down in MPC-HC! Its in the pan and scan section, can move it without changing its size etc.

cool