apollo photos diseceted

BloodyL said:
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Image manipulation was not an invention of the digital age, it harks back practically to day two of the invention of photography, no sooner were people making photographs they were making composites, removing detail etc etc etc.
The concept of "the photograph never lies" has been a fallacy from the word go.
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some people think you cannot do anything unless you have a computer.
 
Skeeter said:
Hang on, let me get this straight... are you seriously suggesting that a photograph released in 1969 was photoshopped?

I assume there is a conspiracy around the US also inventing a time machine to go with this?
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No, they're suggesting they were manipulated. They may well have been, but I doubt it was to hide anything.
 
Ahaha, I gave up after the "staircase". The man is tracking jpeg artefacts. Anyone who has ever seen a poorly compressed jpeg should recognise that kind of blocky artefact.

It really annoys me that people put these videos on the Internet, I can't for a second believe that the person uploading them actually believes the crap they spout but surely they know that there are some retards on the net that might take them seriously?
 
Redman said:
It worries me a little when a Labr@t can't spell dissected ;)
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It's appropriate - the mangling of the spelling reflects the mangling of thought that is required to believe the drivel.

The most plausible "reasoning" behind this particular conspiracy babbling is that the USA went to all the time and effort needed for manned lunar missions but didn't go because aliens told them not to and that the aliens provided the technology necessary to create the fakes (which couldn't have been made with technology known to exist at the time). That's the most plausible explanation. I'd need some extraordinary evidence before taking such an extraordinary claim seriously...and there's no evidence at all.
 
chaosdestro0 said:
Can't most of the moon landing ct crap be disproved by simply using a telescope and looking at the moon? I am not sure what power ( probably wrong terminology) you would need to see the crap left on it though.
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It's already disproved, over and over again. It doesn't even make any logical sense, so it could be dismissed purely on that basis anyway. Why would the USA spend all the time and money being able to make a manned lunar mission and spend all the time and money making a lunar mission...but not put anyone in the ship? Did they just forget? Bit of a mistake, could happen to anyone. No, that's just silly.

There's no way to convince a believer in the conspiracy because their position is entirely based on faith and denial of reason. Bear in mind that they believe that hundreds of photos and hours of video were faked in 1969 and the early 1970s, before CGI and digital image manipulation. Some of the stuff in the films couldn't have been faked with the technology of the time. All the rest would have been extremely difficult to fake. So why would they believe any image today, when it's extremely easy to fake almost any image?

You can't get a direct, purely optical image from Earth of the moon with sufficiently high resolution to see anything anywhere near as small as the stuff left by the Apollo missions. To get one, you'd have to do another lunar mission to get the telescope very close to the moon...and the conspiracy believers would be convinced that it was faked, that the signal being sent back was actually made up in a secret control room in the secret building of the secret conspiracy organisation, blah blah blah.
 
I love Conspiracy Theories, some are extremely plausible, some are very interesting, some are well worth further investigation if you like to keep an open mind and are willing to consider not-so-conformist views, one thing they all have in common though even if they are entertaining and provoke further thought, they always get ruined by other Conspiracy Theorists like themselves and the people who latch on to some theory and take it too far, they are almost always victims of themselves and are their own worst enemies.

The one the OP Posted is a classic example of a terribad one, ridiculous beyond belief and sadly not amusing enough to make it even remotely entertaining, if you managed to make it so far as 'The Steps' and alarm bells weren't ringing in your head about how outright idiotic it was getting then please seek medical advice :)
 
Darg said:
It really annoys me that people put these videos on the Internet, I can't for a second believe that the person uploading them actually believes the crap they spout but surely they know that there are some retards on the net that might take them seriously?
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I'm pretty sure that LabR@t isn't like Magick or others on here and I believe if we give him an excellent reply he'll go away thinking about it and hopefully see what's going on in the film he posted and this is why CT threads should continue and we hopefully convert people into not being idiots.

So LabR@t:

The pictures being manipulated are very poor copies of the originals and you can take any JPG, manipulate it with filters and find all kinds of blocks on it.


Now I need a question answered from the experts:

If I was to 'paint' over a part of a picture (eg turned somebody's head into a black block) and saved it & posted it here, with manipulation software could you get to see the original image underneath?
Or in other words, can anybody tell me what this was under the black? -

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A guest speaker we had at high school a long time ago, who had something to do with the UK's space programme once when, did tell us that the US manipulated the moon landing photo's to remove some of the junk left on the surface, because they knew the fuss which would be kicked up by the usual eco warriors if they saw how much crap they left behind.

No idea if its true, but it seems at least plausible rather then "they edited the aliens out!1!!"
 
Thankfully, the Apollo astronauts put some retro-reflectors on the moon surface so by shining a laser at the landing site you will see that some photons are reflected and thus conclude that NASA did indeed go to the moon.
 
dmpoole said:
Now I need a question answered from the experts:

If I was to 'paint' over a part of a picture (eg turned somebody's head into a black block) and saved it & posted it here, with manipulation software could you get to see the original image underneath?
Or in other words, can anybody tell me what this was under the black? -

test.jpg
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I'll have to put this question in Photography or somewhere
 
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