ARCH << Liquid Lemur

Subliminal Aura · 2 Apr 2012 at 23:09

Pretty much alpha at the moment and takes the pain away from noobs trying Arch.

It's nice is that it's a live cd and the gui installer actually works

http://liquidlemur.com/cms/screenshots

SMN · 3 Apr 2012 at 07:51

Visually it looks pretty awful, out of the box. Im all for more people using pacman and Arch however.

Huw · 3 Apr 2012 at 08:08

I like the look of it myself. I might give it a try next time I get the distro-hopping urge!

SMN · 3 Apr 2012 at 08:11

Huw said:
I like the look of it myself. I might give it a try next time I get the distro-hopping urge!

It looks a little tacky to me, KDE tacky at least. My next choice of distro-hop for fun is Mint, i want to give it a go as ive been hearing good things about it (not as a replacement for Arch, just for lulz).

PermaBanned · 3 Apr 2012 at 14:38

I think one of the main points is that Arch isn't for noobs. It's for making noobs into experts.

Regardless, from the screenshots (and that website) i'm not too keen on it. I'd definitely recommend Chakra over this:

http://chakra-project.org/

Subliminal Aura · 3 Apr 2012 at 16:12

No, it's for making noobs into snobs. I've never come across such an arrogant linux community in my whole 17 odd years of using linux - and when I start talking #reallinux to the wannabes on #archlinux they STFU.

Yeah well it doesn't really matter what it looks like out of the box... as long as it's easy to install you can then build whatever desktop environment you want.

Anyway I'm going to take the plunge and migrate a few boxes to arch

alias crapman=pacman; crapman -Suy here we come

SMN · 3 Apr 2012 at 16:37

Hypocrisy, thy name is...

You dont sound snob like at all Subliminal.

I love pacman/yaourt, it works wonderfully. If only Arch supported gnome 2 i would be 100% satisfied, as opposed to my 95% at the moment.

Subliminal Aura · 3 Apr 2012 at 16:47

SMN said:
I love pacman/yaourt, it works wonderfully. If only Arch supported gnome 2 i would be 100% satisfied, as opposed to my 95% at the moment.

I've just dd'd chakra going to try to see if I can get gnome 2 or mate / maybe compiz with xfce...

We'll see... I too want gnome 2

SMN · 3 Apr 2012 at 16:54

Yeah i'm using MATE at the moment with compiz - working well actually, i just worry about how long it will be kept maintained.

Subliminal Aura · 3 Apr 2012 at 17:01

God damn it.... Just rebooted from Chakra - It's an arch fork :mad:

SMN · 3 Apr 2012 at 17:03

One of us... one of us...

PermaBanned · 3 Apr 2012 at 17:06

I thought this lemur thing was an arch fork too?

Stop being such a hipster, Sub. Join us. You know you want to

Subliminal Aura · 3 Apr 2012 at 17:10

PermaBanned said:
I thought this lemur thing was an arch fork too?

No, it uses Arch repos whereas Chakra uses its own

PermaBanned said:
Stop being such a hipster, Sub. Join us. You know you want to

Meh and join the dark side ? I'll be installing but I'm only forcing myself as your AUR is very up to date - I'll still refuse to adopt the 'Arch way'.

It's like a flippin religion ! LOL

Essexraptor · 4 Apr 2012 at 00:26

Linux Snobs!!!!

LOL

from a non command line Minty Noob

PermaBanned · 4 Apr 2012 at 00:40

Essexraptor said:
Linux Snobs!!!!

LOL

from a non command line Minty Noob

You stand at the beginning of a long journey, young one

Essexraptor · 4 Apr 2012 at 01:29

PermaBanned said:
You stand at the beginning of a long journey, young one

My wife just looked over my shoulder and said " Yoda more like!"

then ........."switch that damn thing off"

aln · 4 Apr 2012 at 03:26

Arch is a nice distro. The guides are wonderful, but being able to get a webrowser up could be tricky for the newer user, and thus a distro which gives you a DE and lets you get on with figuring stuff out from there isn't a bad thing.

Staffy · 6 Apr 2012 at 02:20

This week I have been looking at these as I want to get my daughter to use linux. I use Arch and have been looking at lemur and Chakra to let her install it a bit easier, then manage it for a while before doing a full arch install.

As far as I can tell:
Chakra is moving away from using the Arch repositories and using it's own? And they seem to hate anything Gnome!
Lemur is more a way to get Arch up and running easier and with the basics you need to get going? Well at the moment anyway.

Subliminal Aura · 29 Apr 2012 at 19:58

Just bumping this to say ...

Eventually I got round to installing Arch net-install and building it up purely and it's very clean, really nice. Nice init and package management, almost flawless AUR integration and I even submitted a kernel build patch when a pacman -Suy failed but here's the but....

Although I would say that it's the best choice for the experienced user it's just not for me to use in a production environment. Rolling releases brings to the table too much entropy for me to feel comfortable with.

Lovely to use if you want bleeding edge and the pain that goes with it

Huw · 29 Apr 2012 at 20:25

Subliminal Aura said:
Although I would say that it's the best choice for the experienced user it's just not for me to use in a production environment. Rolling releases brings to the table too much entropy for me to feel comfortable with.

True, that. Every time I've used a bleeding-edge distro with rolling release I've ended up nuking it due to horrific bugs or stability issues.