Are AMD defeated ?

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Watching the recent release of Phenom with interest shows that at 2.3 and 2.2 Ghz and even with a new chipset and its new feature such as PCIe 2 and HTT 3 canot make this baby sing against Intel as much had been hoped.

Dual quad core change anything for AMD?
Is a quad core CPU not represented very well by current benchmarks?
Is the Intel 6600 better value than the Phenom presently or will four cores make it a better purchase?
Are there no quad core benchmarks or is it all a matter of single apps running across multiple cores or mutiple apps running across multiple cores
Even if AMD get out a 3 Ghz part soon will it be enough.

Is anyone now confused by benchmarks or are we all just games players wanting to get the best fps regardless?

 

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the Phenoms are more expensive than the 6600 and you need a new mobo to realise any new performance gains. backwards compatiable is a maybe as well.

 

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I am unsure as to who needs quad core (native or not) at the moment except for bragging rights and major expense in the high end seeing as Intels high end quad cores cost £600+ which is unrealistic. However cost effective quad cores such as the Q6700 is still over £300 pounds so the quad cores from AMD may seem like value for money but the reviews did not male it look that way.

The new 970 chipsets with single, dual and quad crossfire options and HT 3 capability may turn out to be a real boom for the Phenom but this is not how the reviews have told the story.

** ***** and other PC vendors may be able to offer SPIDER solutions based around this AMD/ATi solution but the options from Intel/Nvidia are equally compelling apart from SLI only going two way and not being officially supported in drivers as yet.


**edit** No competitors, read the FAQ - Jedifragger

 

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http://www.*****.net/content/item.php?item=10427&page=15

***** rated the 9600 against the Q6600 and guess what in many regards the dual core 6400+ bests it to. I know these are engineering samples but power drain and performance suffer relative to Intels equivilent offerings.

Even as a mid range offering spider offers the overclocking facilities but not a lot else really. the spider setup is not even much cheaper and no better performer even in true quad mode.

Damm they have got it wrong aint they this time around. Quad core is no performer even at 3 Ghz relative to Intels up and coming die shrinks etc.