Are ASUS really that bad?

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Hardly to start this one really.
I recently Preordered the Tuf F15, I wanted an entry level gaming laptop with Thunderbolt so should I want an eGPU I could get more power and keep the laptop itself cooler.
Thus natural progression for me is to go a little further, I'm building my own cooling tray so I know there's plenty of airflow. Then I asked about the thermals of ASUS laptops in the gaming range....
I found several reddits and youtube vids showing pretty lame paste quality on anything but premium laptops, the zephs had 2 vents blocked with paper inside the case and ASUS basically said improve your cooling and void your warranty.

It is making me question my purchase. I hear they end up needing undervolting a lot to, which keeps cooler temps but doesn't kill performance much if done correctly.

All in all it sounds very much like they're trying to shorten the lifespan of products on purpose. The cooler you keep these things the longer they last. It concerns me because that makes me want to repaste everything with better stuff out of the box and also check all the vents are actually clear... Just what a bag of dicks that is when literally caring for your product can wreck your cover if it fails.

That said, I have an old ASUS X556UA and aside Win10 being a big ol bag of bloat, It hasn't failed me or overheated. Haha, well... not like I can Game on it. but I have emulated SNES and PS1 games on here.

Before I get the "don't believe everything you read" anything I read backed up all the things they claimed. So what are peoples experiences with ASUS gaming laptops?
Would people advise checking things out and upgrading thermal stuffs too?
 
It been covered before that the Tuf A15 had a bad airflow design, which has apparently been fixed in the 2021 model, but other than that I’m not aware of any issues with Asus laptops generally.

I purchased a G751JY six years ago which still works to this day.

Asus tend to use liquid metal now for better thermals and have switched to exclusively using AMD cpus this year which run cooler than Intel chips.
 
I aware of the A15 fiasco too.
Thing is it's hard to know what is isolated cases, people hating on ASUS in brand wars or genuine concerns.

Unfortunately there's nothing released on the Tuf F15 to know what thermals it uses. I've heard liquid metal dries out after a year or so?
 
Well, I'm typing this on my six year old Asus ROG G751JT gaming laptop, which has never even flinched once since the day I got it.

It is however probably one of the final gaming laptop models that was properly 'chonky' and has (I kid you not) probably about 2Kg of copper in it which acts as a seriously effective heatsink and I've only ever seen it hitting close to or slightly over 80c when being pushed hard - and it's a testament to the Asus ROG line of laptops being awesome, I reckon.

Since it's getting long in the tooth and frankly rather slow despite it having an Intel i7 inside, I've pre-ordered a Zephyrus G15 which is ostensibly of the 'Thin & Light' variety and I am a little worried about it cooking itself when I'm gaming or pushing it with digital art apps, but it uses liquid metal for the CPU and I've got a decent cooling pad to put it on so I'm hoping that that's going to be enough to make it last as long as this one.

If it didn't have the liquid metal stuff I'd be wary of repasting the CPU anyway as (I think) it would invalidate the warranty.
 
@clockwork.satan Personally I've used a fair amount of ROG stuff in an old desktop and it lasted ages.
I trust ASUS, but I've not had gaming laptops of any kind, so I get a little on edge.

I hear you on the cooling side of things, hence getting to high pressure 140mm fans for a custom tray, ya know... just to be sure.
Being brand new, I imagine stripping and repasting the machine will likely invalidate the warranty. All I can do is see how it fairs.

Anyone actually done any of the undervolting? I read you can get the same or similar stable clocks but drop core temps a decent amount.
 
Kohaashi said:
It been covered before that the Tuf A15 had a bad airflow design, which has apparently been fixed in the 2021 model, but other than that I’m not aware of any issues with Asus laptops generally.

I purchased a G751JY six years ago which still works to this day.

Asus tend to use liquid metal now for better thermals and have switched to exclusively using AMD cpus this year which run cooler than Intel chips.
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They haven't actually gone exclusively AMD though because there's Intel Asus stuff with 30XX GPU's.
I almost purchased a Tuf Dash until I realised the i7 was a quad core.
Ouch.
 
I've not had a good experience with Asus personally but what really soured it for me was that premium branding on their product only goes as far as skin deep despite what you might pay for it.

Underneath they will quite happily slap together a supposed premium product with cheap parts and haphazard design and then to add insult to injury not stand by their supposed premium product with a premium level of aftercare or warranty and would quite happily ship you out, while making you wait for it, someone else's ropey RMA replacement with minimal refurbishment even if your product died on day 1 (obviously you may have some comeback with the retailer in that situation but still).

Additionally I've seen more than one Asus rep removed from forums (and I believe it happened here as well) for getting abusive with people who've called them out on it.
 
@Martini1991 The year is a little irrelevant, that said you can pay 1500 for a machine with 2 more cores and a 1650 GPU, the one you're refering to has the 3070 I think, so that aint all that bad in my opinion, unless you're chasing perfect numbers. That then becomes a preference or the users need due to their needs so to speak.

@Rroff That's a shame, I've used a few of their products and have *touches wood* not been let down yet. I have heard a few of their products have been lacking, but they've also made some pretty decent ones too. I did unfortunately see a vid showing their reps being arses, reading off a script or generally not having a clue about the products they're talking about.
 
How is the year irrelevant? If it was the year 2050 is a 4 core CPU still acceptable?

You can get a 3070 paired with an AMD 4800H for £1300 here on OcUK.
 
Really? Don't get me wrong I don't mind being corrected here.
@Kohaashi I saw somewhere that the 4800h runs hotter than the intel and despite more cores isn't all that much better? Also from the design the thermals look worse than the intel, 2 heat pipes instead of 5. I was tempted by that version. until I heard of the heat issues and such. Side note, if you don't need any more than 4 cores, 8 threads, yes. It is acceptable. I'm not really looking to go into full time PC gaming, I just want the option to play things if I want. not on ultra.
 
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