Are most drivers spiteful?

As others have said, if someone was 'waiting' for my spot, I'd demist, retune my radio correctly to all four stations, probably reset my trip computer, reset my dial lights....... you get the idea.

No need for it, get over yourself.

"get over yourself"?

What is that supposed to mean exactly? If it's a packed car park with no spaces, and you look like you're about to leave, then what's the problem with someone waiting patiently?

If you weren't planning on leaving straight away then fair enough, but why deliberately take as long as possible just for the sake of it?

Fair enough if they're being a **** and revving their engine/beeping their horn at you, but if they're just sat out of the way waiting then what are you hoping to achieve by it?

Are you always that selfish and arrogant, or just when you get behind the wheel?

I said above that I nearly got into a lot of trouble for doing it at a very heavy populated station.
I thought I was doing other drivers a favour but nearly got arrested.

Last year my daughter was filling up at a Morrisons petrol station but her card wouldn't work.
She didn't have enough cash so rang me to go and bail her out but it would take about 30 minutes.
When I got there the car was still at the pump because the policy was not to move a car from the pump until the bill had been paid.

Strange - I had my card decide not to work after filling up once, and was given the option of either get someone to pay over the phone, or show them ID, fill in a form with my details, and come back to pay within 7 days.

Would have thought they'd have a procedure to deal with it, better than just blocking the pump and leaving the car there till it's paid.

All anecdotal really. Only real way you could determine if taxi drivers are worse drivers is by comparing accident statistics. Or fines handed out by the police for taxis vs cars.

Please tell me more about these accidents caused by, and tickets issued for "parking" in the middle of the road blocking traffic for 10 minutes waiting for your passengers, or for performing u-turns in the middle of the road, or for pulling out/changing lanes without indicating etc.


It's in a taxi drivers interest (or any other professional driver), to drive safely really, when losing their licence could cost them their livelihood.

The problem is, it's nothing to do with driving "safely" or "legally", it's perfectly possible to do both of those things with absolutely no consideration for others, an art which taxi drivers seem to have mastered beautifully!

I disagree its a lot less than 50/50 - if you are waiting to get out of a turning (in car) or cross a road (on foot) even with slow moving heavy queues where people don't really lose anything to do so other than let up for half a second to make the gap feasible to use - you will still wait quite awhile before someone will show simple consideration.

Previous job it used to get very queued back and slow moving on the main road outside and I've seen people waiting to cross who won't just push out waiting quite awhile before anyone will let them cross - personally I always just let the cars immediately at the crossing pass then just walk out even though it would upset some drivers.

EDIT: Though to be fair I bet there are a good few drivers in that situation who see you waiting to cross and are like - "if I slow down and wave them across that muppet in the car behind natting on their mobile while eating and fiddling with their makeup is going to notice too late and go into the back of me"

I have to confess I let people out a lot less frequently these days, since half the time they aren't even paying attention, so what should have involved me giving them a wave/flash and slowing down slightly to give them the space to pull out instead turns into me giving them a wave/flash whilst slowing down, them not noticing because they're too busy staring into space/at their phone/chatting to their passenger/doing their makeup, me giving them another flash/wave, them finally noticing, me having to stop, them trying to remember which pedal makes the car go, me sitting stopped in the middle of the road while they pull out with the speed of a glacier...

It's illegal to use a phone whilst operating a motor vehicle without using handsfree. Therefore I'd like to believe you weren't suggesting they were just sat there with the engine running whilst on the phone using handsfree and not moving...that would just be silly if they were!

Why would that be silly? Being on the phone affects your driving, hands-free or not.
 
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No, he was walking at the time. I'm not suggesting he randomly go about assaulting people, but if a child is in your face mouthing off then they need a spank. No need to be a nation of pussies.

You think knocking out some chavy kid regardless of if he is being provoked verbally is going to fly with the police?

Its one thing getting into a fight when you are a teenager but laying into someone when you are older can cause serious injury/harm and on rare occasions kill. When its not worth the effort or trouble, why bother?

Rather live in a country of pussies than a country of ****heads.

As for being spiteful, i think that it is not just with cars but with everything they think they can get away with. People are spiteful when shopping and things don't go their way like when there is out of stocks and you are desperate, many take it out on a nearby assistant. People are spiteful to cold callers (as if each time you get a call its the same person), where in reality they are just trying to make a living and they likely hate their job and cold calling more than you do.
 
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It's illegal to use a phone whilst operating a motor vehicle without using handsfree. Therefore I'd like to believe you weren't suggesting they were just sat there with the engine running whilst on the phone using handsfree and not moving...that would just be silly if they were!

Why? It is a free world and if a person should choose to talk on hands free whilst parked up then that is their choice and it is certainly not spiteful. Even using hands free, talking on the phone impairs driving ability as does any other distraction. As such people still prefer using phones whilst stationary.

As an aside, if that person was on the phone or waiting for a loved one but was stood outside the main entrance in the rain would they be seen as spiteful? Afterall their car is still taking up that space, right? Or is the truth of the matter, as I alluded to earlier, that other drivers making assumptions about peoples intentions is the root cause of the issue?

Also I feel your first point is one of pedantry and is a little beneath you. The Police are not going to give you a ticket if they see you are pulled over, parked safely and talking on the phone with the engine running.
 
I don't understand these drivers who literally do 60 laps around a car park to find a space but can't be bothered to go to the next car park. I see this all the time at the Trafford Center, i'll do half a lap round a car park, if i don't see a space i move onto the next one. Surely the time you've wasted (and fuel) going round in circles would be better spent moving onto the next car park.

Also i'm sure everyone believes that everyone else is slow, even when someone is waiting for your bay and you're trying to be as quick as possible, they'll still be moaning about how slow you're taking.
 
I don't understand these drivers who literally do 60 laps around a car park to find a space but can't be bothered to go to the next car park. I see this all the time at the Trafford Center, i'll do half a lap round a car park, if i don't see a space i move onto the next one. Surely the time you've wasted (and fuel) going round in circles would be better spent moving onto the next car park.

Also i'm sure everyone believes that everyone else is slow, even when someone is waiting for your bay and you're trying to be as quick as possible, they'll still be moaning about how slow you're taking.

People seem to be scared of walking anywhere nowadays!

a good friend of mine, although very fit and active has this weird thing where he will only park on the first floor of a multi storey, when we go out to get some food or something he'll drive round for ages trying to get a space, I don't understand it!

Personally if its a busy weekend or something I'll just head straight up to the top, or to a floor that doesn't look too busy, I hate messing around in car parks!
 
All anecdotal really. Only real way you could determine if taxi drivers are worse drivers is by comparing accident statistics. Or fines handed out by the police for taxis vs cars.

It's in a taxi drivers interest (or any other professional driver), to drive safely really, when losing their licence could cost them their livelihood.

Another aspersion people like to cast is that of HGV drivers, especially if there's an accident on the motorway, "they mustn't have been paying attention" etc.
Anecdotal of course but it's worrying the number of HGV drivers I see on a mobile phone.



The best is when you just get a spot on a full car park and you see a car crawling along doing his upmost to find an empty one or someone who is about to leave.

That's when you give the driver a smile, reverse out and as you see the beam shine upon his face, you straighten up, go back in, get out the car and walk off with a spring in your step.

Simple things in life...
I honestly don't understand this mentality. Simple things please simple minds I suppose.
Quite, it's pathetic that someone gets a kick out of something like that.
 
I don't understand these drivers who literally do 60 laps around a car park to find a space but can't be bothered to go to the next car park. I see this all the time at the Trafford Center, i'll do half a lap round a car park, if i don't see a space i move onto the next one. Surely the time you've wasted (and fuel) going round in circles would be better spent moving onto the next car park.

Also i'm sure everyone believes that everyone else is slow, even when someone is waiting for your bay and you're trying to be as quick as possible, they'll still be moaning about how slow you're taking.

+1

Even if i know it will save me a few minutes i would still rather take another few minutes longer and park a little further away so i am not messing about in a car park. I don't mind the walk or the time lost if it cant be helped, what i mind is being idle or waiting for something that may not happen for a while.

There is a small shopping centre near me and it has a 4 story carpark. People will happily sit there impatiently mentally hurrying a driver to get to his car and go out but wont go up to the last level of the carpark (which is always empty) because its technically further away (despite the walk to the lift being the same).
 
The one that gets me is the local BP/M&S.

You have somebody at the head of the queue at the pumps who after having filled up just leaves his car there blocking the pump line and then spends the next 15 Minutes inside doing his shopping!

There is a parking area 10 metres away, dead ahead, right in front of the shop!

Why the #### don't people who want to shop use it and leave the pump line free!

(Indeed, when I fill up I will park away from the pumps before going in and paying even when I am just filling up!)

There is one near where I work just off a dual carriageway. It's always busy, two people per pump at 5.30pm. I used to fill up and park in the car park before paying but since nobody else ever did I just leave the car sitting.

Not too bad when it's just people buying fuel but if 5 people get held up with someone doing a weekly shop, buying fags and lottery for themselves and their work it gets a bit crowded!

The other one that gets me is people queuing for a certain pump when they are all long enough to reach both sides of the car without scratching it.

I think modern tills must have a memory of unsettled transaction?
 
Quite, it's pathetic that someone gets a kick out of something like that.

Yes, my numpty senses are strong with that one. After my shop I'll make it clear to the nearest "crawler" that I'm leaving if the car park is busy. Why would I waste any time in exiting the car park? Time is money!
 
Why would I waste any time in exiting the car park? Time is money!

Obviously some peoples time is worth so little that squandering it doesn't seem like a waste.

Maybe they even drive out to these car parks with the intention of just sitting there so they can leave once the car park is sufficiently busy?
 
Obviously some peoples time is worth so little that squandering it doesn't seem like a waste.

Maybe they even drive out to these car parks with the intention of just sitting there so they can leave once the car park is sufficiently busy?

Conversely, some people feel their time is so much more valuable than that of others and as such feel they should be accorded greater public rights for being more special than everyone else. :)
 
If the parked car has its lights on especially reversing light I'll probably wait, but not too long. Otherwise I'll move on. A person sitting in the drivers seat isn't enough IMO. Infact if sitting in the car in carparks or other places if I'm waiting for someone to return I'll go sit in the passenger seat just so people won't get the idea I'm about to drive off. Because I'm not.

Drivers seem to be increasingly impatient, but that may be due to the ever increasing number of vehicles on the road and ever increasing traffic queues.

The Asda garage they regularly toot you if they think you aren't going fast enough or think they're being held up for two seconds longer than they would like.

Why not simply park in the disabled bays or the parent & child bays? Saves so much hassle and they're way closer to the store entrance.

Heh, I once had a woman come up to me in a supermarket car park and loudly berate me for parking in a parent and child bays. I did fly off teh handle a bit but she was right really and I don't do it anymore. Disabled bay parking is something that really gets my goat sometimes every single bay is occupied and not a single disabled badge amongst them. Selfish gits, would it hurt you to walk another 5 yards?
 
Yes, my numpty senses are strong with that one. After my shop I'll make it clear to the nearest "crawler" that I'm leaving if the car park is busy. Why would I waste any time in exiting the car park? Time is money!

Same here, if I'm leaving amd I can see someone is looking for a space then I'll let them know. I don't know why anyone would do any different unless they were slightly sociopathic.
 
The best is when you just get a spot on a full car park and you see a car crawling along doing his upmost to find an empty one or someone who is about to leave.

That's when you give the driver a smile, reverse out and as you see the beam shine upon his face, you straighten up, go back in, get out the car and walk off with a spring in your step.

Simple things in life...

No doubt you'd be the first person to complain about it when they waited until you were out of sight and then keyed your car. I would in no way condoning such an action, but it wouldn't be hard to understand if someone did it to you.
 
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