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Then why is he allowed to continue to promote this agenda?

It's certainly possible to discuss these things without his racist bile.
I'm going to have to direct you to Robbo's post which captures my own view quite well.
Yes, I can see why people think that but generally he's just airing his own views which are in turn ripped apart and then he disappears.

As I said, I don't think it would fall under inciting racial hatred therefore it doesn't break the rules... even though you think it should.

I can totally understand your point but ultimately what he posts isn't usually direct racism.
 
Yes, I can see why people think that but generally he's just airing his own views which are in turn ripped apart and then he disappears.

As I said, I don't think it would fall under inciting racial hatred therefore it doesn't break the rules... even though you think it should.

I can totally understand your point but ultimately what he posts isn't usually direct racism.

Some because he posts indirectly that somehow makes his racist threads 'okay'?

He's clever in his wording but if you *read* his threads these hidden messages aren't really hidden, he's wording things so that moderators don't ban him.

I find it laughable that he's allowed to post, I'm sorry, but just because he's 'clever' in his lexis he gets away with being racist and attempting to incite and spread racist bile.
 
Some because he posts indirectly that somehow makes his racist threads 'okay'?

He's clever in his wording but if you *read* his threads these hidden messages aren't really hidden, he's wording things so that moderators don't ban him.

I find it laughable that he's allowed to post, I'm sorry, but just because he's 'clever' in his lexis he gets away with being racist and attempting to incite and spread racist bile.

It doesn't make it okay, I'm just explaining why I don't think he's been banned.

The forum as a whole condemn any of his viewpoints and there is usually only one person who actively agrees with anything he says (Cheets).

Seems pretty direct to me.

Krooton's post is particularly helpful in identifying what the law defines too.

All he says there is that he hates what politicians have done to the country due to mass immigration. Is that really racist?
 
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Who defines what is racist and the rules regarding it?

1. An offended member on the forum?
2. Someone who has racist views?
3. A long standing member with high post count?
4. MOH?
5. Don?
6. Spie?
7. Police?
8. Government?
9. A Squirrel?
10. God?

This could go on and on. The mod team do their jobs and I think they are pretty good at on the whole. If there is a problem then there will be a drive for change and things will happen if they are deemed right by those Dons etc on the forum through discussion.

I'm also sick and tired of certain people coming on here and whining about how they are offended and everything must conform to their view. Pathetic PC losers who sum up what is wrong with the UK these days, but's that a differnet subject altogether.

Right, I'm off to drink a black Tea infused with beautiful white milk in black mug stirred up by a dark and dirty silver spoon.
 
Who defines what is racist and the rules regarding it?

1. An offended member on the forum?
2. Someone who has racist views?
3. A long standing member with high post count?
4. MOH?
5. Don?
6. Spie?
7. Police?
8. Government?
9. A Squirrel?
10. God?

This could go on and on. The mod team do their jobs and I think they are pretty good at on the whole. If there is a problem then there will be a drive for change and things will happen if they are deemed right by those Dons etc on the forum through discussion.

I'm also sick and tired of certain people coming on here and whining about how they are offended and everything must conform to their view. Pathetic PC losers who sum up what is wrong with the UK these days, but's that a differnet subject altogether.

Right, I'm off to drink a black Tea infused with beautiful white mild!

Hmm. Aimed at anyone?

Complaining about people complaining :o
 
We both know that isn't what he was saying.

He could well have meant politicians but because it's him saying it, you assume he didn't.

Looking at it from the point of view of a totally unbiased moderator, you'd have to assume he meant the politicians.

This is the issue.
 
He could well have meant politicians but because it's him saying it, you assume he didn't.

Looking at it from the point of view of a totally unbiased moderator, you'd have to assume he meant the politicians.

This is the issue.

The moderators should be able to read more then just a single post to judge the tone / hidden messages and such. You can dissect any one single post and draw different things from it, but it's almost pointless when you put it in to the context of the thread / other posts by the poster.
 
The moderators should be able to read more then just a single post to judge the tone / hidden messages and such. You can dissect any one single post and draw different things from it, but it's almost pointless when you put it in to the context of the thread / other posts by the poster.

They should, and I'm sure they do.

If they think he's inciting racial hatred, they will ban him. Obviously they don't think he is, so that is why he's allowed to post.

While many of his threads do have various undertones, the content isn't directly racist as I said. If it was, he wouldn't be here.
 
They should, and I'm sure they do.

If they think he's inciting racial hatred, they will ban him. Obviously they don't think he is, so that is why he's allowed to post.

While many of his threads do have various undertones, the content isn't directly racist as I said. If it was, he wouldn't be here.

So continuing to use tax-loophole styled prose means he can keep doing what he does?

So other things can be discussed provided they are done indirectly and with subterfuge? Sweet!

I'm totally drinking SO much coffee on Saturday night and party until Sunday afternoon.
 
I don't even know why you're all discussing this single user, especially when he isn't even here.

Can't remember the last time I saw him post. Let alone if it was racist in any way

If your talking about Dirtydog then he will only post in here when it suits his racist/bigotted agenda;)...other than that he wont bother posting because clearly he has nothing to offer this forum other than his warped views on race and immigration.

Meh im not even that bothered by DD and when he posts...when he does i laugh at some of the utter rubbish he comes out with...best thing i find to do with him is to ignore him as much as possible...same with Cheets64 and Bhavv.
 
But seriously, if people find him SO offensive, which obviously a lot of you do. Just add him to your block list!!!!

But no, you'll all gang up in a random thread and bad mouth about him :p
 
So continuing to use tax-loophole styled prose means he can keep doing what he does?

So other things can be discussed provided they are done indirectly and with subterfuge? Sweet!

I'm totally drinking SO much coffee on Saturday night and party until Sunday afternoon.

What is it that you think he's doing exactly? Inciting racial hatred? Recruiting people for the BNP...?

Ultimately the majority of his posts are generally anti-immigration, not anti-race.

I've yet to see anything I'd consider to be out and out racism from him, how a point is put across is everything given this is an internet forum and all we have to go on is the content we see on the screen.
 
What is it that you think he's doing exactly? Inciting racial hatred? Recruiting people for the BNP...?

Being a racist bigot. I guess it just riles me up more because I grew up in SA in 80s and despise racist views massively.

Ultimately the majority of his posts are generally anti-immigration, not anti-race.

Which provides a great smoke-screen for racist views though. The vast majority of immigrants will be of a different race to the native people of the country they move to.

Non-EU born immigrants made up 4.7 million of the 7 million total immigrants in 2010. Most of these were from Asia and Africa, meaning pretty low numbers for Caucasians.
 
Being a racist bigot. I guess it just riles me up more because I grew up in SA in 80s and despise racist views massively.

Which provides a great smoke-screen for racist views though. The vast majority of immigrants will be of a different race to the native people of the country they move to.

Non-EU born immigrants made up 4.7 million of the 7 million total immigrants in 2010. Most of these were from Asia and Africa, meaning pretty low numbers for Caucasians.

It's not just you, I doubt there are many people here who actually like racism. It's bound to upset people.
 
It's not just you, I doubt there are many people here who actually like racism. It's bound to upset people.

No doubt, but it's just like DD and his ilk are given free reign to troll provided they post from "the correct angle".

Every site needs villains I guess...
 
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