Are there any extra components and/or cables etc that I need still?

MaGillio · 16 Jan 2020 at 12:43

Hello.

I'm building my first gaming PC and I've ordered all my parts and waiting for them to be delivered

I would just like to know if there's any extra components and/or cables I need to buy for my PSU or anything like zip ties, splitters, extensions, sleeves, Velcro ties etc that I need to buy because of my sound card and all the RGB stuff and fans in my build because I don't know if my PSU or the things I've bought will come with all the cables and stuff that I am going to need or if my motherboard/psu has enough slots/headers etc to power and control everything correctly without needing extra things and also to keep everything nicely organized and tidy hidden away.

I'd like to have all my RGB stuff linked up so I can control all the lighting effects either off my motherboards software or a controller thing, whichever is the best way to do it and to be able to control my fans etc whichever is the best way to do them both...?

I also still need to buy some thermal paste for the CPU but not sure what the best one to get is?

I also need to buy the tools to build my PC but not sure what tools I need apart from a screwdriver that is magnetized?

Thanks for taking the time to read through this and help me and sorry for so many questions and all the help I'm asking for it's just because this is going to be my first time building so just want to make sure I've got everything I need ready when I start putting it all together. I really do appreciate it allot!

Here's all my compenents:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 3.6 GHz 6-Core Processor
Motherboard: Gigabyte X570 AORUS PRO ATX AM4 Motherboard
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Neo 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4-3600 Memory
Storage: Intel 660p Series 512 GB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Storage: Intel 660p Series 1.02 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive
Video Card: Asus GeForce GTX 1660 Ti 6 GB DUAL OC Video Card
Case: Fractal Design Meshify C ATX Mid Tower Case
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply
Sound Card: Asus STRIX RAID PRO 24-bit 192 kHz Sound Card
Case Fan: Deepcool RF 120 (3 in 1) 56.5 CFM 120 mm Fans
Case Fan: Deepcool RF 140 (2-pack) 64.13 CFM 140 mm Fan
Custom: DEEPCOOL RGB CPU Cooler 4 Heat pipes 120mm RGB Fan Universal Socket Solution (GAMMAXX GT BK)

Danny75 · 16 Jan 2020 at 15:14

PSU will come with all the cables for the main components.

The DeepCool 120 RGB fans come with a 4-port fan hub (so you'll have enough headers to power all fans in total), and an LED splitter for connecting to motherboard as well as a controller cable if not connecting LEDs to motherboard. Suggest you use the LED-to-motherboard method so you can control through Gigabyte's software.

You'll need a Philips head #2 screwdriver for everything except the tiny M.2 screws. For the M.2 something like a "Stanley 66-039 6-Piece Jewelers Precision Screwdriver Set" will have the right one. Or just buy a set with everything which doesn't cost much, like:

VOXON 58 in 1 Magnetic Screwdriver Set, Precision Magnetic Screwdriver Set with 54 Driver Bits, Computer Repair Tool Kit,Compatible with iPhone, Tablet, Macbook, Xbox, Cellphone, PC, Game Console

The CPU cooler will come with paste already.

Velcro ties are good. A 1 metre strip should be fine. Or zipties if you already have them handy. Often the power supply and/or case accessories box will bring either velcro or zip-ties. Not always enough quantity though.

EsaT · 16 Jan 2020 at 19:50

Well, lots of show, shorter on bang per buck...

That's awfully expensive motherboard for basic CPU. Literally 2 cores/4 threads less than in next-gen consoles.
MSI B450 Tomahawk Max would be more balanced for such CPU...
With saved money enough to give for example Ryzen 3700X to keep playing heavier next-gen games without upgrading CPU.

And unless having some special heavy workload related needs, there's little sense to fill very few M.2 slots with smallish drives.
Further pretty much analog storage QLC Flash drives with sustained write speeds taking beating from 10 years old HDD would be also bad fit for such use.
TLC Flash SATA drives would be lot times faster in sustained write speed.
And for gaming use there's no meaningfull loading time difference between SATA and NVMe SSD.

Also graphics card is such basic level that 750W is overkill.
You wouldn't buy a car with V8 engine just for city rush hour traffic "grocery shopping cart" use, would you?
550W would be more than plenty for such CPU and GPU and 650W is enough for nearly any high end gaming PC.
(that config would be struggling to reach mid level)

Neither such lower end hardware needs that many fans.
As for controlling fan speeds if you want to make sure they do what you want Aqua Computer Quadro beats the snot out of everything else. (for PWM fans)
Starting from possibility to use both physical temperature sensor readings and software based readings as basis for control meaning CPU fan speed can be controlled by CPU temperature and case fan speed by actual air temperature inside case.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/aqua-computer-quadro-pwm-fan-controller-wc-338-aq.html

RGB is lot more complex with holy mess of incompatible systems.
But you want to minimize number of different RGB control softwares those being mostly crappy bloatware bogging down PC:

And if you're using speakers separate sound card isn't really needed, unless integrated one turns to be EMI magnet.
And for headphone use (which atomize stereo speakers in gaming immersion when having good headphones and HRTF) that Asus has super questionable design features:
Its headphone output has facepalm level 100 ohm output impedance, while output impedance should be lot less than impedance of headphones (ideally like 1/8th or lower) to guarantee undistorted frequency response and best control of headphone driver.
Who knows if its amplifier circuitry is more fit for radio transmitter than audio use and needs that output resistor to keep it stable, or if they think someone will cram iron nail into jack...
But there's no excuse for it.

Same price level Sound BlasterX G6 has proper low impedance output and volume control knob, if your keyboard lacks volume control and want that.
(though it might not be protected against iron nail jammed into jack...)
And especially if you have peculiar head shape then for headphone gaming newish Sound Blaster X3 could be best with its head shape customizable HRTF:
We hear in 3D with two ears, because shape of the head(+pinnae) causes direction dependant changes to signal received by both ears from sound source.
Hence HRTF using average head shape doesn't work well for someone with head shape differing more from average. (brain gets wrong cues)

MaGillio · 16 Jan 2020 at 19:54

Thankyou so much!!!!! So will I be able to connect all my pwm fans and cpu coolers up properly so that each fans pwm thing will detect temperatures and spin at different speeds according to that through the hub? I thought i'd need to be plugging everything dircetly into the motherboard for that to work? and the rgb led stuff without having to buy any extra cables then if I want to do the LED-to-motherboard method. And don't I need any extra pcie or pci cable for my soundcard?

Here are all the Internal I/O Connetors on my motherboard

1 x 24-pin ATX main power connector
1 x 8-pin ATX 12V power connector
1 x 4-pin ATX 12V power connector
1 x CPU fan header
1 x water cooling CPU fan header
3 x system fan headers
2 x system fan/water cooling pump headers
2 x addressable LED strip headers
2 x RGB LED strip headers
1 x CPU cooler LED strip/RGB LED strip header
2 x M.2 Socket 3 connectors
6 x SATA 6Gb/s connectors
1 x front panel header
1 x front panel audio header
1 x USB Type-C™ port, with USB 3.2 Gen 2 support
2 x USB 3.2 Gen 1 headers
2 x USB 2.0/1.1 headers
1 x Trusted Platform Module (TPM) header (2x6 pin, for the GC-TPM2.0_S module only)
1 x Clear CMOS jumper
2 x temperature sensor headers
1 x Q-Flash Plus button
1 x Thunderbolt™ add-in card connector (Only rev1.1 available)

I got the x570 because I want intel lan and not realtek lan that that the b450 max boards have. I wanted 2 m.2 slots because i'd rather use ssds that don't require wires insdtead of having more wires to manage from normal ssds and i'll upgrade my cpu when the new consoles are out if the 3600 becauses unable to handle stuff anymore.

I'll also upgrade my 1660ti sometime this year, (It was bought for me as a christmas present just gone so I'd feel bad to change it right now unfortunatly) so i got the 750w psu now so that I won't have to swap that out and because the price difference between 750w units and 550w unit was kinda small anyway.

I've gone with 2 m.2 slots because the 500gb one is for windows, drivers, apps and the 1tb one is for all my games and the fact that they're apparently faster than normal ssds is just a bonus.

That soundcard was also bought for me as a present for my birthday a few years ago. I have a razer tiamat 7.1 v2 headset that has like 7 jacks on it for "Surround sound" and apparently they needed a dedicated sonud card for all the jacks. The soundcard also came with a DAC amp box thing but it only has a mic in and headphone in hole so i've always left that in the box because i didn't know if i should be plugging all my jacks directly into my soundcard or plugging the dac box into my soundcard and just pugging my headphone and mic in port into the dac box instead? Is my soudncard beter than my motherboards onboard audio?

Danny75 · 16 Jan 2020 at 20:42

MaGillio said:
So will I be able to connect all my pwm fans and cpu coolers up properly so that each fans pwm thing will detect temperatures and spin at different speeds according to that through the hub?

Basically, yes. However, the four port hub would connect to the motherboard and send back one signal to all fans plugged into the hub. So whichever fans you plugged into the hub would all run at the same speed.

That said, it does look like the motherboard has enough fan headers for the four port hub to not be needed, so you can plug each fan into a different header if you really need each fan to be independent. Usually this isn't the case, i.e. the front fans can run at same speed, the top fans at same speed. So if you were to run out of fan headers the four port hub would be useful for two or three fans.

MaGillio said:
and the rgb led stuff without having to buy any extra cables then if I want to do the LED-to-motherboard method.

The Deepcool fans bring a LED extension as well as splitter. Sometimes the motherboard will also bring a LED extension. Don't think you'll need it to though. The Meshify C is quite a compact ATX case. You'll just have to see how it works out but I'd be surprised if the LED cable with extension doesn't reach where it has to.

MaGillio said:
And don't I need any extra pcie or pci cable for my soundcard?

No.

MaGillio · 16 Jan 2020 at 20:50

Thankyooouuuuuu! Just out of curioisty is the Cooler MasterAir MA410 better than the gammaxx gt? I could swap to that cpu cooler and change the case fans to cooler master ones if it's going to give me better temps and be easier to set all the fans and rgb stuff up?

Danny75 · 16 Jan 2020 at 21:55

I don't have experience with either cooler, sorry. I do know this - for better temps (and ease of wiring, and noise) don't go RGB.

Although I know the Fractal Prisma ARGB aren't bad. Whereas the Lian-Li BR Lite I wouldn't touch with a bargepole again despite how nice they look. They are pretty noisy even at low RPMs.

Whatever you go for, make sure the fans are either RGB or ARGB (your mobo will support either) and not a combination of both. They don't synch well, and apparently some motherboards only provide one or the other even if they have headers for both types. Don't quote me on the latter though, just what I read or saw in a video somewhere.

MaGillio · 16 Jan 2020 at 23:03

I'm just not sure how i am to connect all the rgb up to my motherboard and all the fans so that everything is controlled directly through my motherboards rgb software and all the fans can act independtly in there pwm mode based on temps. Aswell as i'm going to put asecond fan on the cpu color for exhaust but don't know where i'd plug that one in either so it runs based of the cpu temperature like the other cpu fan will that will be plugged into the cpu fan header

In total i'm going to have 6 fans; 2 140mm fans on the front as intake, 1 120mm fan at the back for exhaust, 1 120mm at the top as exhaust. 2 120mm fans on the cpu cooler, one as intake and one as exhaust but i'd like each fan to act independtly in pwm mode at speeds based on temps and all the fans to be synced up to my motherboards rgb software so everything in the case is all synced up

EsaT · 16 Jan 2020 at 23:06

MaGillio said:
I got the x570 because I want intel lan and not realtek lan that that the b450 max boards have.

got the 750w psu now so that I won't have to swap that out and because the price difference between 750w units and 550w unit was kinda small anyway.

I've gone with 2 m.2 slots because the 500gb one is for windows, drivers, apps and the 1tb one is for all my games and the fact that they're apparently faster than normal ssds is just a bonus.

Already X570 Aorus Elite would have Intel NIC. (and VRM which is basically gross overkill for even 8 cores)

Corsair RM is downgraded serie model with cheaper capacitors and fan, RMx is where Corsair doesn't cheap out in capacitors.
There would have been cheaper 650W top quality components PSUs like Phanteks AMP.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/phanteks-amp-650w-80-plus-gold-modular-power-supply-ca-09q-pt.html

There's zero sense in having two separate SSDs over one big. (with separate partition for OS)
SSDs don't suffer from lousy seek times of mechanical drives.

And there's no real loading time difference in between NVMe and SATA SSD:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=nvme+ssd+hdd
These measurements are like 50-50 mix of NVMe and SATA drives:
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/seagate-firecuda-510-1-tb-ssd/13.html

With those headphones being 200% genuine gaming fashion garbage, quality of signal is rather moot point.
It's the old chain is as strong as its weakest link thing and getting digital signal to analog doesn't need any super parts. Even up to this level:

Using world-class headphones, a $2 Realtek integrated audio codec could not be reliably distinguished from the $2000 Benchmark DAC2 HGC in a four-device round-up...
https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/high-end-pc-audio,3733-19.html

This is the kind of frequency responses those have:
https://nl.hardware.info/artikel/60...-luisteren#testresultaten---frequentierespons
And dumb truck load of even cheaper trinket drivers than usual and certainly without any tuning of driver and casing to work together won't produce accurate sound.
While definitely better than plain speaker stereo mix on headphones, they're neither capable to proper surround sound.
Because of laws of the physics and sound from headphones behaving differently than from actual surround speaker set.

MaGillio said:
Thankyooouuuuuu! Just out of curioisty is the Cooler MasterAir MA410 better than the gammaxx gt?

That Deepcool is really rather standard size tower heatsink, with even cheaped out construction with gaps between heatpipes in base.
MA410 looks to be another bling blinged standard tower heatsink with brand hype.

Scythe Mugen 5 would be real heavy duty cooler (weights 750g for heatsink vs 420g of Coolermaster) without even much of marketing BS extra for RGB version and is compatible with RGB controls of motherboards.
https://www.overclockers.co.uk/scyt...-cpu-cooler-with-pwm-fan-120mm-hs-04c-sy.html
Beats some Gammax GT and MA410 soundly in here. (near top performance on temps, low on noise)
https://www.eteknix.com/scythe-mugen-5-tuf-gaming-alliance-cooler-review/5/

MaGillio · 17 Jan 2020 at 03:29

I really appreciate all the tips on my parts but i've already purchased everything a few days ago so it's kinda too late haha.
I'm just looking for advice for everything I stated in my original post please so I can start building

MaGillio · 17 Jan 2020 at 05:09

Ok change of plan, scrapping the RGB route it seems to complicated and finnicky for me i'll just get some white led strips and put them in my case instead.

I'm going with an ARCTIC Freezer 34 eSports DUO CPU Cooler & 2 ARCTIC BioniX 104 CFM F140 mm Fans & 2 ARCTIC BioniX F120 69 CFM 120 mm Fans.

How do I connect all of these up to take advantage of the PWM PST Sharing Technology?

Grimley · 17 Jan 2020 at 14:59

/\/\/\ Ive checked the manual for the board listed in the OP & all the fan headers (there's 5 of them) are PWM. I'd daisy chain no more than 2 fans together & both onto a fan header though you can do more.