Are there any very good, smaller than atx, power supplies?

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The pico psu's look lovely, until you get to the small print which says if you're using them 24/7 or if they might get hot, they're only rated for half the nominal wattage. If it's hot and on 24/7, all bets are off.

There are the power supplies silverstone bundle with their cases, but the advice I was always given is to avoid cases with built in power supplies as the built in ones will be rubbish. This puts me off, despite silverstone's excellent name. I'd be interested in information about these, from somewhere which tore it apart and bench tested it. Google is failing me / I'm failing at google here.

Does anyone have any ideas? I'd be quite happy with 200W, as long as it will reliably output its 200W to well within spec, at 50 degrees ambient, for years. I don't think a pico would do.
 
The Silverstone supplies are fantastic. I had a system with an HD5850 running off the 300W one in the SG05 at one point.

I'd take a look at the ST45SF.
 
Thanks for the model number, it lead me to a review on Johnnyguru's site. His conclusion was that it isn't as good as an atx supply, but it's still very good considering the size limitations. 450W is lots too, so I believe it'll do rather well around 300W.

Thank you very much Tute

edit: I see that the SG05 and SG06 cases come with 300W power supplies, but there are also SG05-450 and SG06-450 models listed which include a "450W 80+" power supply, does anyone know if the power supply these cases come with is the above mentioned ST45SF or merely something similar? Their site seems a bit vague about it

edit2: I'm fairly sure the sugo's come with different, presumably worse power supplies than the ST45SF. No matter.
 
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SG05 + ST45SF = £140 last time I looked
SG05-450 = £105

So I'd be fairly confident in saying the SG05-450 doesn't have the ST45SF in it, especially as the SG05-450 has a black interior too, so where is Silverstone's profit margin?
 
What are you powering tho? Picos run to 160w (like the XT I am now selling :) in MM) now and my FULL PC with VGA card normally doesnt draw more than 80-85w. That should be well within Pico's normal range.
 
I'm toying with the idea of changing from X58 to a mini-itx based intel quad, but keeping an 8800GT connected. I'm pretty sure a pico wont do quad core and 8800gt, though it'll probably do one or the other. Otherwise m-atx X58 and two 8800gt's in a much smaller box than my current one. Either way it's good to have options. This is separate to the low power boards I was looking at in the other thread :)
 
i just switched from a phenom II 955, 5970 antec 1200 monster to the sg07, with i5 2400 and a 5850 for now and i dont regret a thing, only reason i changed the 5970 was because it has a triple slot cooler which wont fit. prob going either 6970 or 570.
 
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