Are these temps right?

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 14:16

Hey guys, after getting my brand new E5200 yesterday, I couldnt wait to get down to some overclocking. I got it up to 3.5Ghz so far with no problems. Not tried going any higher yet. But when i looked on speedfan i saw these temps:

"Core" is the Graphics card, "Core 0" and "Core 1" I believe to be the CPU. But what the hell is that soaring at 86°C!? Another thing i notice is that the Core 0 stays at 35°C and Core 1 39°C all the time apart from on P95 or whilst gaming. And i notice when i start a P95 stress test or something, that 86°C goes up instantly. It doesnt just gradually build up like the Core's do. Also any ideas for what the Temp1's,2&3 are for? Any thoughts much appreciated.

xiphrex · 18 Jul 2009 at 14:26

Get Coretemp, its much more simpler and shows the core temperatures.

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 15:25

xiphrex said:
Get Coretemp, its much more simpler and shows the core temperatures.

I do hae core temp and that shows the core 0 and core 1 at the same temps you can see here on speedfan, but I'm also curious about what that 86degree temp is

xiphrex · 18 Jul 2009 at 15:40

50C at full load is good, you can overclock further.

I dont know what that 86C is but I dont think its something to worry about if the cores are at 50C.

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 16:56

xiphrex said:
50C at full load is good, you can overclock further.

I dont know what that 86C is but I dont think its something to worry about if the cores are at 50C.

Ok, thanks for that. But just a question on the lifespan of the chip, if i overclock it much more, its gonna reduce the life span significantly right? Is it the heat that kills the chip or just the overclocking? or both?

RJC · 18 Jul 2009 at 17:01

Voltage and heat are probably the main culprits, but belongs your not silly like stick 1.4v ~ on the chip your chip will last for quite a few years, buy which time you will be using something far better

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 17:43

RJC said:
Voltage and heat are probably the main culprits, but belongs your not silly like stick 1.4v ~ on the chip your chip will last for quite a few years, buy which time you will be using something far better

Thanks

xiphrex · 18 Jul 2009 at 17:43

iDevil said:
Ok, thanks for that. But just a question on the lifespan of the chip, if i overclock it much more, its gonna reduce the life span significantly right? Is it the heat that kills the chip or just the overclocking? or both?

I wouldnt worry too much about life span unless your planning to keep the same PC for ten years or more, which I doubt.

I still have an old overclocked AMD that is still going strong, must be 4 years old now.

Just be sensible in your overclocking and there should be no problems.

Voxination · 18 Jul 2009 at 17:49

Not sure on the 86C temp, but 50C at full load @ 3.5Ghz is great!

Is the CPU under-water or have you got a good air setup?

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 18:17

Voxination said:
Not sure on the 86C temp, but 50C at full load @ 3.5Ghz is great!

Is the CPU under-water or have you got a good air setup?

It would be interesting to get it on water, but no. I'm using a freezer pro 7. Yea i'd really like to know what's going up to 86C, it's kinda bugging me

Voxination · 18 Jul 2009 at 18:39

Just powered up SpeedFan and Temp1 doesn't even exist for me, so it shall remain a mystery...

Have you tried re-installing SpeedFan?

bifday2k · 18 Jul 2009 at 18:40

Nice clock there, running it at that will be fine as its not a high vcore ur running, and especially if you use intel speedstep along with it so it only runs full whack when needed it won't harm your computer at all.

It would only really affect life span if you run over 1.4v 24/7, but its safe enough to run it that high for little bits, like me when i was testing how high i could go, had mine upto 4.1ghz @ 1.4+ volts for a superPi run for the forums Hwbot team.

As others have suggested real temp and core temp are best for monitoring cpu temps, but if your really worried about that temp 1 thing, download and run hwmonitor along side speed fan and prime95 it again and see what the temps in hwmonitor say and u should be able to figure out what they all are.

Edit:
Just checked mine and temp 1 is my overall Cpu temp as shown in the screen shot below, i used the method above checking other apps to see what was what so i could rename my speed fan stuff.

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:07

Ok, i downloaded HWmonitor and ran that alongside speedfan:

As you can see, it's still there. But in the Speedfan config. it doesnt show as 87C, it shows as 43C:

Does anyone know what that collection of temp1,2 and 3 are on the IT8718F chip?

And one other thing i notice, the 2 core temps always stick at 35C and 39C when idle. Even when i set the CPU to stock speeds it stays there as if its stuck:

And i have the voltage set to Auto in the BIOS, not sure if thats a good idea or not, if somebody could let me know. Thanks

bifday2k · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:18

I'll try and do abit of research for you, and about the core temps at idle, mine allways read

Core 0 37c
Core 1 36c

So i would'nt worry about that to much.

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:24

bifday2k said:
I'll try and do abit of research for you, and about the core temps at idle, mine allways read

Core 0 37c
Core 1 36c

So i would'nt worry about that to much.

Thanks bud, appreciate it

xiphrex · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:39

Core temps at idle may be inaccurate, they are more accurate at load, so I wouldnt worry about idle.

But even then they seem good at idle.

bifday2k · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:40

MMM can't really find anything, there was a few mentions about that chipset and speedfan not correctly reading certain things, and the maker of speedfan is working on fixes.

Im 90% sure from seeing the Hwmonitor screenie that it is your overall CPU temp, but it can't realisticly be that high otherwise your computer would have shut down. Can you go into your bios and make sure thermal protection stuff is turned on, not sure what its called for ur system though.

Then test again, if u have thermal protection on and it still reads that temp then its a false reading.

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:43

xiphrex said:
Core temps at idle may be inaccurate, they are more accurate at load, so I wouldnt worry about idle.

But even then they seem good at idle.

Yea, they look fine at idle, it just makes me feel that I can't trust them when they actually have load so they could be burning and I have no idea

And ontop of that, the temps show different again in the BIOS. Though I know I won't find core temps in the BIOS, but still. Too many different temps! :confused:

iDevil · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:44

bifday2k said:
Can you go into your bios and make sure thermal protection stuff is turned on, not sure what its called for ur system though.

Then test again, if u have thermal protection on and it still reads that temp then its a false reading.

Thanks for looking, i'll go have a rummage now.

bifday2k · 18 Jul 2009 at 19:46

Temps in bios are allways high, dunno why, my cpu often reads 40c in bios even on cold days, yet when i get into windows check every last sensor application, they all say totally diff, so ignore temps in bios.

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