Are these temps right?

bifday2k said:
Temps in bios are allways high, dunno why, my cpu often reads 40c in bios even on cold days, yet when i get into windows check every last sensor application, they all say totally diff, so ignore temps in bios.
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Ok, thanks for that :) I just had a quick look in the BIOS. I set speedstep On, i changed the q-fan control to optimal, and my PC just got extremly quiet! lol. i couldnt find any thermal warning, but i found "CPU Internal Thermal Control" which could either be set to "Auto" or "Disabled" so I put it to Auto :) Is it good to have the Vcore set to auto in the Bios? I see it changing up and down on the fly in Cpu-z and speedfan. Is this a good thing, like speedstep?
 
iDevil said:
Ok, thanks for that :) I just had a quick look in the BIOS. I set speedstep On, i changed the q-fan control to optimal, and my PC just got extremly quiet! lol. i couldnt find any thermal warning, but i found "CPU Internal Thermal Control" which could either be set to "Auto" or "Disabled" so I put it to Auto :) Is it good to have the Vcore set to auto in the Bios? I see it changing up and down on the fly in Cpu-z and speedfan. Is this a good thing, like speedstep?
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Ok intel thermal control will stop ur processor going over its rated temp of 72c so thats good to have on.

q-fan just regulates the speed of your fans, when needed it will get noisey again :D.

I personally never use auto vcore, as it often puts more vcore then is really needed, as u can see from my sig, i don't need a lot of vcore to get 3.75ghz, but if i set it to auto, the bios automaticly boosts it to 1.4 lol. But it all depends on the mobo really. I would suggest playing about with it, ur at 3.5ghz atm, id try booting up with vcore being 1.3, if it boots test for stability, if fine, go back and drop it down 1 notch, and repeat untill it becomes unstable, then put the vcore to the value that was last stable.

About the vcore changing on the fly in cpu-z and speedfan thats normal, thats speed step doing its job.
 
bifday2k said:
Ok intel thermal control will stop ur processor going over its rated temp of 72c so thats good to have on.

q-fan just regulates the speed of your fans, when needed it will get noisey again :D.

I personally never use auto vcore, as it often puts more vcore then is really needed, as u can see from my sig, i don't need a lot of vcore to get 3.75ghz, but if i set it to auto, the bios automaticly boosts it to 1.4 lol. But it all depends on the mobo really. I would suggest playing about with it, ur at 3.5ghz atm, id try booting up with vcore being 1.3, if it boots test for stability, if fine, go back and drop it down 1 notch, and repeat untill it becomes unstable, then put the vcore to the value that was last stable.

About the vcore changing on the fly in cpu-z and speedfan thats normal, thats speed step doing its job.
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Thanks again :) Under load though, i only see the voltage in CPU-Z go up to 1.26v and i havnt seen it go higher than that in P95. If i go into the BIOS and set the voltage at 1.26V, will speedstep still be able to change it on the fly?
 
Yeh speedstep lowers ur multi, and volts according to what demands are put on ur system.

As u can see from one of my previous screenshots, in speedfan its showing my vcore @1.08v thats becuase speedstep has my comp running @ 1.8ghz x 6 multi when my comp is idle (web browsing), if needed it boosts it up to the real 12.5 multi and the vcore i set it at which is 1.275v, speed step will only ever use the maximum u entered, never more. And only when needed.

The only reason speedstep would change the volts and multi on the fly is if u had it turned off.

The only reason i said to enter ur vcore manually is if u where to try and go higher, you would notice a huge jump in vcore when its on auto, well my mobo does that but its different make to urs.
 
bifday2k said:
Yeh speedstep lowers ur multi, and volts according to what demands are put on ur system.

As u can see from one of my previous screenshots, in speedfan its showing my vcore @1.08v thats becuase speedstep has my comp running @ 1.8ghz x 6 multi when my comp is idle (web browsing), if needed it boosts it up to the real 12.5 multi and the vcore i set it at which is 1.275v, speed step will only ever use the maximum u entered, never more. And only when needed.

The only reason speedstep would change the volts and multi on the fly is if u had it turned off.

The only reason i said to enter ur vcore manually is if u where to try and go higher, you would notice a huge jump in vcore when its on auto, well my mobo does that but its different make to urs.
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Ok :) Thanks for all the help. Think you've cleared up a few things for me. I guess the 86C sensor will remain a mystery :) Thanks to all that posted in this thread :)
 
No problems, glad i was able to help clear things up, we all have to start somewhere, and heck im still a beginner when it comes to overclocking.

I think u just might have a bugged cpu temp sensor really, or something like that when it comes to that high reading, aslong as u keep that "intel thermal control" turned on your fine, that will shut ur comp down if it goes to far.

And if your anything like me, i know u won't stick at 3.5ghz lol, have fun tweaking things, it is fun :D
 
bifday2k said:
No problems, glad i was able to help clear things up, we all have to start somewhere, and heck im still a beginner when it comes to overclocking.

I think u just might have a bugged cpu temp sensor really, or something like that when it comes to that high reading, aslong as u keep that "intel thermal control" turned on your fine, that will shut ur comp down if it goes to far.

And if your anything like me, i know u won't stick at 3.5ghz lol, have fun tweaking things, it is fun :D
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Hehe yea, ive only managed to get it up to 3.64Ghz @ 1.26Vcore 53°C and im gonna start working that voltage down. I've set it up to 3.7GHz @ 1.3Vcore but crashes as windows plays its welcome sound lol. I'm a little scared to take it over 1.3V. What would you say was a sensible voltage limit? I've looked at the E5200 on Intel's website but they don't list a maximum vcore or anything, just the VID.
 
Vid voltage is ur vcore

VID Voltage Range for E5200: 0.85V – 1.3625V, so as you can see u can safely go upto 1.3625.

The reason you are unstable at 3.7 could be 2 factors not enough vcore and/or not enough voltage in the chipset, everyones set up is different.

I could get mine upto 3.6ghz on stock volts for both core and chipset, but anything more i had to increase both by a couple of notches. And anything over 4ghz i had to pump 1.4 - 1.45v on the core and have the chipset nearly maxed out on volts too.

Basicly its all about spending time tweaking voltages for ur mobo, cpu and even memory, also tweaking memory timings too, allways try to keep your memory to its rated speed untill you have ur cpu sorted then u can tweak your memory after.
 
When I googled VID I saw things saying that it was the voltage required to initialize it when you power on the machine. Oh well, I might take it up some more, but I'm pretty impressed with the 13k~ 3dmark score over the 3k~ score I was getting in the same machine with a pentium D 915 lol :) is there really much to be gained from the jump of 3.6 to 3.7?
 
realisticly you won't spot a difference between 3.6ghz and 3.7ghz so if your happy with 3.6 then keep it at that.

The only difference u will spot is in benchmarks like superpi and the like, but realisticly in day to day no difference. Also if you are using speedstep like mentioned before your comp won't run most of the time at 3.6 anyways, only when u stress the comp it will, mine only ever runs full speed when gaming or benching lol.

If you do decide to try for more, make sure to write down ur current settings somewhere so u know what to put it back to, that is unless u can save the current bios profile not sure on ur board, i know i can save 2 profiles on my bios.

Gratz on the 3.6 though.
 
The two temperature sensors that dont move are probably stuck.

I have two stuck on my quad. They move under load so it's no big deal. I guess in your case you'll never really know your idle temperatures.
 
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