Are we scared to discuss race?

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I see that from the experiment thread that loads of us will wanna say stuff that perhaps we are worried to say or think it might offend people. Yes we might argue that it is a light-hearted thread etc even though it is, I still think it provides a little door way to something bigger - Possibly that we might be potentially racist in some ways or have one or two issue against other race - xenophobia? Even our own government find it hard to discuss racial issue without the opposition labeling them racist or leading to a full blown drama in the house where they have daily debate (house of parliament or commons?). Let's not forget how daily mirror and similar news outlet play their own part by sensationalising the slightest of news and possibly brain-washing a few in the process.

We cant talk about immigrant and issues that they bring along, we cant even mention Islam (even though it aint a race) or I cant even try to raise this issue without getting replies like "El...why does it have to be about race" :rolleyes: ? I mean seriously why not!...? We live in a multicultural society and we clearly have issue that needs ironing out as a result of this (multiculturalism) hence talking about race should be 24/7 and paramount. I am a minority (i so hate that word) and i dont have a problem discussing thing brought upon as a result of people from my cirlce (race etc).

Another thing that makes me wonder if we are afriaid to discuss race is our our goverment tend to bow to slight pressure from so called minorities complaint and pressure. I dunno but this is a democratic society - Majority wins the vote and have their say...perhaps that dont apply in this case. What am trying to say is why councils gonna ban xmas, and other festive occasion (or change the tradition around it) just because of some pen-pusher?...Anyway you guys get the idea here. So are we scared to discuss race?
 
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Just adopt the same policy as the aussies, job done and dusted. Race does not bother me in the slightest and i will say what i want when i want. I find it ridiculous that the government tiptoes around certain "races", its only racist when its white on xxx, never when its the other way around. Crazy times we live in.

Oh and just wanted to add that im not christian and christmas doesnt offend me, so muslims can fo ruining my holiday season!
 
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Lord-Jaffa said:
its only racist when its white on xxx, never when its the other way around. Crazy times we live in.

I think i see what you mean and BBC is somehow guilty of that (some will argue)

Lord-Jaffa said:
Oh and just wanted to add that im not christian and christmas doesnt offend me, so muslims can fo ruining my holiday season!

I dont think you can have a debate like that with that kind of stance...
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
Oh and just wanted to add that im not christian and christmas doesnt offend me, so muslims can fo ruining my holiday season!

Well, Muslims believe (or, should) to Christ and the Virgin Mary, so I don't really see the reason for any offence. Perhaps it's not the Muslims that are offended?
 
ElRazur said:
We cant talk about immigrant and issues that they bring along, we cant even mention Islam (even though it aint a race)

What are you on about? There are about 5 threads a day discussing Islam or immigration Have a look in SC and you'll find about 7 on the front page alone. This is just a classic straw man argument that race/religion can't be discussed when there is no reason at all why it can't be.

ElRazur said:
Another thing that makes me wonder if we are afriaid to discuss race is our our goverment tend to bow to slight pressure from so called minorities complaint and pressure. I dunno but this is a democratic society - Majority wins the vote and have their say

No it doesn't and a good thing too.

ElRazur said:
What am trying to say is why councils gonna ban xmas

Care to give an example of a concil making the decision to ban xmas?

ElRazur said:
So are we scared to discuss race?

Nope.
 
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Mr Mister said:
OP i dont think you know when to STFU.

No need for that was there? We was all having a right good old discussion on another thread a short while ago before it got locked. For what reason I dont know.

I am in this thread. I enjoyed the other one and now its time for a different approach to this subject which imo cannot be ignored. It does need to be sorted and put straight. Plus on a good side if all goes well, be made into a sticky on the FAQ regarding the rules on board use on the subject of personal insults etc..

Just an idea but we certainly need to come up with a reason for all this crap about racism and the like. For one I am getting annoyed with it and I do agree with a lot of what El has to say on the matter. I am glad hes got the balls to mention this sort of subject on here.

No doubt there is going to be a few people that will jump on this thread and **** it off.
 
OP, seems to me like you are just trying constantly to incite racial hate. It's not about fear, it's about you looking for attention and trying to cause arguments amongst the differing ethnic backgrounds that frequent these forums.

ElRazur said:
I am a minority

Well done, have a cookie.
 
droolinggimp said:
Plus on a good side if all goes well, be made into a sticky on the FAQ regarding the rules on board use on the subject of personal insults etc..

There is already a rule - none will be tollerated.

droolinggimp said:
Some people are due to the fact the last thread got closed.

Has nothing to do with it and question of that nature will stay off the board.
 
El dude. A lot of the members here aren't afraid to discuss race issues. They just find it boring that you keep going on and on and on about it. Half the time you don't even have a point, you just try to get peoples backs up so that you can have a 3+ page thread. Honestly dude it's not something that needs to be gone over again and again. Blacks/Asians/Chinese/Whites, whatever, we all live here, lets all get along. End.
 
starscream said:
What are you on about? There are about 5 threads a day discussing Islam or immigration Have a look in SC and you'll find about 7 on the front page alone. This is just a classic straw man argument that race/religion can't be discussed when there is no reason at all why it can't be.

So i guess five threads day makes it official that we discuss Islam, Immigration and race? I see where you are coming form but my post is more about society approach to this kind of debate. Sorry Ocuk dont represent the nation. Still think it is a classic straw man arguement?



starscream said:
No it doesn't and a good thing too.

Are you telling me our government dont bow to pressure from minorities? Please tell me you are joking. I cant think oif one example right away but i would have to eventually.





starscream said:
Care to give an example of a concil making the decision to ban xmas?

I was reffering to xmas traditions. Again i will get back to you on that one, i have to lock up at work.
 
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