Are you guys 100% certain?
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If they are 1 gig sticks - yes.
If 512 sticks - NO.
If 512 sticks - NO.
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it's a major performance hit generally, 2T =\
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Tommy B said:
Much better getting 2x1Gb, maintain 1T and clocks well too.
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The difference is about 5% to 10%
But the difference is smaller in games as usually you are videocard limited.
But ione other thing is that overclocking is almost out of the question with four sticks so that might also give a 5% difference.
But the difference is smaller in games as usually you are videocard limited.
But ione other thing is that overclocking is almost out of the question with four sticks so that might also give a 5% difference.
It depends on the board and the CPU doesn't it? Firstly I think only the venice cores and above allow you to do 1T on 4 sticks, all other A64s below that I think its an automatic no. And then I think the board has to specifically support it as said above with the boards such as the DFI. Most of the time that depends on how many chips are on each side of the stick i think. IOW: Its not a 100% certainty 
Its always been risky and cause a lot of probs running 4 sticks. I doubt if *** asus premium will do it. Havent tried 4 sticks on my expert but dont think it will do it. Only one i know of is the new xfire board that dfi are about to release. Suppose to be the best 939 board ever released
I run 4 x 512 Corsair 3200XL with a Winchester 3200 at the minute. (MSI K8N NEO2)
I did try to mix and match my 2 corsair sticks with 2 Patriot sticks that were the same timmings 5-2-2-2 and also TCCD sticks, but it was realy realy unstable mixed. luckily i was able to persaude a m8 to exchange his Corsair that was the same as my own for the Patriot (he was happy because it was fitted on a brainpower pcb) Once that was done my Ram and cpu combination has been 100 stable since making the change, fingers crossed
It's true that you do default to 166 (333) @ 2T due to the limitations of the winni memory controller though
The way i overcome this partialy is to overclock my CPU from its default 2000 to 2400 by raising the FSB by 40, this means my cpu now runs at 2.4 and my ram is now running at 200 (400) but still at 2T. My timmings are still at 5-2-2-2 at these settings.
From reading up and doing a few test runs i've come to the conclusion that the 2T rate has a minimal effect in "Real" world gaming, sure it makes a differance if your heavily into benchmarking especialy sisandra and everest etc, but for your average guy then gaming is where it counts.
TBH what i've done isn't a route i'd recomend but if like myself your forced to go this way for lack of money reasons i'd still think very carfully before you do it.
I think my Winni was sent by god to make my life easier seeing as it does everything i ask of it ie: clocks to 2.8 and runs 4 x 512 at 200 with 2T @ 5-2-2-2. Oh and also still runs even though i've removed the IHS from it and made it a naked CPU now
Hope this post has been a little bit usefull for anyone thinking of going the 4 x 512 route ?
I did try to mix and match my 2 corsair sticks with 2 Patriot sticks that were the same timmings 5-2-2-2 and also TCCD sticks, but it was realy realy unstable mixed. luckily i was able to persaude a m8 to exchange his Corsair that was the same as my own for the Patriot (he was happy because it was fitted on a brainpower pcb) Once that was done my Ram and cpu combination has been 100 stable since making the change, fingers crossed
It's true that you do default to 166 (333) @ 2T due to the limitations of the winni memory controller though
The way i overcome this partialy is to overclock my CPU from its default 2000 to 2400 by raising the FSB by 40, this means my cpu now runs at 2.4 and my ram is now running at 200 (400) but still at 2T. My timmings are still at 5-2-2-2 at these settings.
From reading up and doing a few test runs i've come to the conclusion that the 2T rate has a minimal effect in "Real" world gaming, sure it makes a differance if your heavily into benchmarking especialy sisandra and everest etc, but for your average guy then gaming is where it counts.
TBH what i've done isn't a route i'd recomend but if like myself your forced to go this way for lack of money reasons i'd still think very carfully before you do it.
I think my Winni was sent by god to make my life easier seeing as it does everything i ask of it ie: clocks to 2.8 and runs 4 x 512 at 200 with 2T @ 5-2-2-2. Oh and also still runs even though i've removed the IHS from it and made it a naked CPU now
Hope this post has been a little bit usefull for anyone thinking of going the 4 x 512 route ?
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Dutch Guy said:
Venice and San Diego default to 2t 400mhz, the older Winchester and Newcastles default to 2t 333mhz.
The defaults are VERY conservative, I could still run stable at 500Mhz 2t with 4x512mb of BH5 on an older Winchester core.
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Defcon5 said:
Yeah thats right but apparently Oskar Wu managed to find a work around on this board.
Wasn't it a DFI RDX200 mobo that can run 1T with 4 sticksted34 said:
[edit]Yeah, the DFI RDX200 mobo can also run 4 sticks at 1T: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2572&p=5 [/edit]
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Dutch Guy said:Wasn't it a DFI RDX200 mobo that can run 1T with 4 sticks
[edit]Yeah, the DFI RDX200 mobo can also run 4 sticks at 1T: http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2572&p=5 [/edit]
Yeah thats the one, missed that