Arock board with a 9800x3d??

Tetras said:
Is fine, good number/spec of USB ports on the rear, 3x M.2 slots, but on paper the VRM/PCB spec is comparably much weaker than the TUF Plus and MSI's Tomahawk (which are near the top of the thermal charts in HUB's roundup).

Tomahawk also has an extra M.2 slot and 5Gb LAN, though they prioritised Type-C on the rear, which leads to less/lower spec USB ports.
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Sorry just to clarify this is the tomahawk wifi max?


Around 240 vs the 180 of the others but better audio codec too?

This also comes with the external clock gen which is meant to be good for OC but I probbaly won't touch till out of warranty but good to know for future proofing.


Looks like scan are trying to fob me off for returning the mobo for even store credit by denying an issue at all.

So might have to RMA with Asrock and then resell to try and recoup.


Should have just waited for ocuk to have it back in stock it seems
 
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Hello,

Thanks for getting in touch,

Sorry to hear that.

Just to check is the motherboard showing any faults at this stage?

We're sadly not under any instructions from ASRock or AMD to replace either the motherboard or CPU unless faulty as per normal warranty terms.

Best Regards,"

Ordered in Feb 2025

Meanwhile asrock statement

"No, we're not saying it's an AMD issue. We found that it should be related to our BIOS setting — that's the PBO settings, Precision Boost Overdrive. More technically, we adjusted two main settings in PBO. One is TDC (Thermal Design Current) and the other is EDC (Electrical Design Current). We found that our original values for these two settings might have been too high. So now, with BIOS version 3.25, we lowered the PBO values. We believe this can solve the problem."—Chris Lee, ASRock VP of Motherboard Business"

3.25 came out in may.

No response since asking
 
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Tefal said:
Sorry just to clarify this is the tomahawk wifi max?


Around 240 vs the 180 of the others but better audio codec too?
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The MAX and non-MAX have the same VRM, but the non-MAX only has 3x M.2 slots (vs 4) and swaps one of the 3x USB Type-C ports the MAX has for a Type-A.

Edit: the spreadsheet also suggests that the non-MAX may only be 6-layer and it performed similar thermally to the Aorus Elite in HUB's roundup.
 
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G J said:
I dont get why nearly all the talk about this focus on the 9800X3D only and now the 9000 series when its effecting all AM5 CPU's and This its been going on for what 18 months now...
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Same with Intel degradation issue for 13th and 14th Gen all they talk about is 13900K models and 14900K models but really effecting all the range including 13700K's and 14700K's etc.
 
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I dont get why nearly all the talk about this focus on the 9800X3D only and now the 9000 series when its effecting all AM5 CPU's and This its been going on for what 18 months now...
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Probably because the reality is it's not actually affecting all CPU"s to the extent many think.

So far it's been just over a couple of hundred unverified failed CPU reports on Asrock AM5 out of over a couple of million motherboards meaning around 0.01% failure rate which is actually far below the CPU's mentioned own failure rates.

These failures are not only due to Asrock. But amateur enthusiast pc building and tinkering as well as AMD natural failure rates. Yet everyone blames every glitch on Asrock.

Gamer Nexus showed some unverified numbers, PC Builder on YouTube also posted some figures showing what models and batches suffered the most.

So we don't have 500 failed 9800X3D with 400 failed 7800X3D or 7600 or 9900x or 9700x.

It's a couple of hundred or so, mainly 9800, and mostly the most popular CPU on the most popular motherboards in hand made systems.

If you take away the CPUs that failed due to AMD failure rates, take away the amateurs self builds that caused issues, how many actual CPU"s did fail due to Asrock, what were the majority. 9800 followed by 9000 series. And the numbers are actually not that impressive.

What is impressive is the attention it got and just how many never bought Asrock due to the Reddit posts.
Yet bought Asus despite Asus issues with customer information, botnets getting free reign on Asus routers and the fact that Asus blew more 7800X3D than Asrock blew 9800X3D.

You might even be surprised at popular memory choices failure rates, or hard drives, yet no one did the Reddit rounds there or created click bait videos to target Asrock sales by posting misinformation and what some guy said some guy said.

The reality is that the majority of cretins on YouTube posting about Asrock are morons who regurgitating old news and images repeatedly so they could fish in views from the boiled cabbage brain brigade.

I don't see anyone refusing a 5090 due to melting cables. Yet you have more risk of that than frying a CPU.
So if AMD 9800X3D failure rates, Gskill memory failure rates, Corsair NVMe failure rates, Seagate HDD failure rates, Nvidia 5090 power connector failure rates, are all higher than the failure rates of AMD due to Asrock motherboards. What does that make of the consumer mind set and Reddit thread's?

It's pretty much pointless. Because all we have is masses of real clue and hyperbole click bait and all due to threads gathering excrement as they go down the u bend.

I mean we have people switching pcs on and off during builds not knowing about memory training whilst trying to improve their CPU settings but admitting defeat when it comes to bios updates, showing screenshots of Asrock bios, it showing bios 3.15, in a thread that starts with "update your bios" as one of the common build advisories.
Then blaming Asrock for their 7600x CPU failing.
Then selling the motherboard and bundle on this MM, where the new owner then asks if it's safe to install a 9800X3D because he read a Reddit post.

Meanwhile system building companies and YouTubbie pros can't replicate the problem, even when customers send in the hardware that failed for them to replicate it with.

I am certainly under the impression Asrock motherboards have been putting aggressive settings on AMD CPU's and as such increased failure rates.

But when you consider AMD CPU failure rates, and the amount of Asrock motherboards sold, it's hard to take any of it seriously now.

Put it this way, it has put me off buying the 9950X3D or X3D2 when it comes out.

Yet how many Asrock users have 9950X3D and how many reports of that CPU failing were documented on reports such as the data on PC Builder.

I lets face it, as consumers we have issues.
Just look at DDR5 pricing, yet it's selling more now for some retailers than it did in June 2025 when 32gb cost £80.
And we still buy NVMe drives built before the ram crisis for twice the original RRP due to ram price increases clearly having a time machine and going back to affect items built with pre inflation components.

While ranting like lunatics about how a motherboard brand makes CPUs explode due to a probably 0.01% failure rate when people are probably more likely to explosively poop their underwear.

Don't buy Asrock but do buy an adult nappy just in case you have an accident whilst swooning over YouTube PC click bait videos.
 
sastusbulbas said:
Probably because the reality is it's not actually affecting all CPU"s to the extent many think.

So far it's been just over a couple of hundred unverified failed CPU reports on Asrock AM5 out of over a couple of million motherboards meaning around 0.01% failure rate which is actually far below the CPU's mentioned own failure rates.

These failures are not only due to Asrock. But amateur enthusiast pc building and tinkering as well as AMD natural failure rates. Yet everyone blames every glitch on Asrock.

Gamer Nexus showed some unverified numbers, PC Builder on YouTube also posted some figures showing what models and batches suffered the most.

So we don't have 500 failed 9800X3D with 400 failed 7800X3D or 7600 or 9900x or 9700x.

It's a couple of hundred or so, mainly 9800, and mostly the most popular CPU on the most popular motherboards in hand made systems.

If you take away the CPUs that failed due to AMD failure rates, take away the amateurs self builds that caused issues, how many actual CPU"s did fail due to Asrock, what were the majority. 9800 followed by 9000 series. And the numbers are actually not that impressive.

What is impressive is the attention it got and just how many never bought Asrock due to the Reddit posts.
Yet bought Asus despite Asus issues with customer information, botnets getting free reign on Asus routers and the fact that Asus blew more 7800X3D than Asrock blew 9800X3D.

You might even be surprised at popular memory choices failure rates, or hard drives, yet no one did the Reddit rounds there or created click bait videos to target Asrock sales by posting misinformation and what some guy said some guy said.

The reality is that the majority of cretins on YouTube posting about Asrock are morons who regurgitating old news and images repeatedly so they could fish in views from the boiled cabbage brain brigade.

I don't see anyone refusing a 5090 due to melting cables. Yet you have more risk of that than frying a CPU.
So if AMD 9800X3D failure rates, Gskill memory failure rates, Corsair NVMe failure rates, Seagate HDD failure rates, Nvidia 5090 power connector failure rates, are all higher than the failure rates of AMD due to Asrock motherboards. What does that make of the consumer mind set and Reddit thread's?

It's pretty much pointless. Because all we have is masses of real clue and hyperbole click bait and all due to threads gathering excrement as they go down the u bend.

I mean we have people switching pcs on and off during builds not knowing about memory training whilst trying to improve their CPU settings but admitting defeat when it comes to bios updates, showing screenshots of Asrock bios, it showing bios 3.15, in a thread that starts with "update your bios" as one of the common build advisories.
Then blaming Asrock for their 7600x CPU failing.
Then selling the motherboard and bundle on this MM, where the new owner then asks if it's safe to install a 9800X3D because he read a Reddit post.

Meanwhile system building companies and YouTubbie pros can't replicate the problem, even when customers send in the hardware that failed for them to replicate it with.

I am certainly under the impression Asrock motherboards have been putting aggressive settings on AMD CPU's and as such increased failure rates.

But when you consider AMD CPU failure rates, and the amount of Asrock motherboards sold, it's hard to take any of it seriously now.

Put it this way, it has put me off buying the 9950X3D or X3D2 when it comes out.

Yet how many Asrock users have 9950X3D and how many reports of that CPU failing were documented on reports such as the data on PC Builder.

I lets face it, as consumers we have issues.
Just look at DDR5 pricing, yet it's selling more now for some retailers than it did in June 2025 when 32gb cost £80.
And we still buy NVMe drives built before the ram crisis for twice the original RRP due to ram price increases clearly having a time machine and going back to affect items built with pre inflation components.

While ranting like lunatics about how a motherboard brand makes CPUs explode due to a probably 0.01% failure rate when people are probably more likely to explosively poop their underwear.

Don't buy Asrock but do buy an adult nappy just in case you have an accident whilst swooning over YouTube PC click bait videos.
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To be fair I think it's a few more than a few 100, I own an 870e WiFi nova with a 9800x3d and have no issues but I do worry. At least 3 members of this forum have had them fail on Asrock boards so there is something funky going on
 
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Yeah it is somewhere in the region of 1000 failures at this point - there is a constant trickle of new reports of failures on the latest Reddit megathread and other tech forums, still a tiny number relative to the number of CPUs sold but still.

Did a bit of back checking and most reports are from people with like 6-12 year old accounts with a history so unlikely to be fake.
 
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Same with Intel degradation issue for 13th and 14th Gen all they talk about is 13900K models and 14900K models but really effecting all the range including 13700K's and 14700K's etc.
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Yep, it was by far the CPU's that had enchanced Thermal Velocity Boost which where the 13900/14900 non K (K/KS) and the CPU's that has Turbo Boost 3.0 which where the above and the 13700/13900 non K K and KS.

14600K/13600K and below dont have this together with their lower power usage I'm almost certain they where effected the least.

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Yeah it is somewhere in the region of 1000 failures at this point - there is a constant trickle of new reports of failures on the latest Reddit megathread and other tech forums, still a tiny number relative to the number of CPUs sold but still.
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Most of the tech tubers at the moment seem to all be following the same script at the moment focusing on 9800X3D and the mega threads in the ASRock subreddit when all on has to do is spend more than 10 minutes on there and theres about a post a day of a dead 7xxx/9xxx AM5 CPU.

The situation is now that people seem content that not only is it ok for a number of CPU's to constantly fail that its also a small amount of motherboards have killed multiple CPU's where no techtuber has seemed to have addressed this. AMD and motherboard vendors seem its ok that after a CPU RMA for people to put a new CPU back into a motherboard that has a track record of killing CPU's and the only fix to this is hope is does not happen again or buy another motherboard brand at ones own expense meanwhile being lumbered with a paperwight motherboard. There also seems to be no pressure on what happens when the warranty runs out or any news on a warranty extension, BIOS updates where supposed to fix all these issues meanwhile people are reporting failures on later bios versions.

ASRock posted an update on the 5th of Feb to say now they are investigating it but it seems to focus only the 9xxx series.
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Did a bit of back checking and most reports are from people with like 6-12 year old accounts with a history so unlikely to be fake.
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I'm not sure why is this a point of contention for people and the tech tube space as before any person or company could pretty much say anything and they where taken at their word as the Intel issue proved this.
 
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G J said:
Most of the tech tubers at the moment seem to all be following the same script at the moment focusing on 9800X3D and the mega threads in the ASRock subreddit when all on has to do is spend more than 10 minutes on there and theres about a post a day of a dead 7xxx/9xxx AM5 CPU.

The situation is now that people seem content that not only is it ok for a number of CPU's to constantly fail that its also a small amount of motherboards have killed multiple CPU's where no techtuber has seemed to have addressed this. AMD and motherboard vendors seem its ok that after a CPU RMA for people to put a new CPU back into a motherboard that has a track record of killing CPU's and the only fix to this is hope is does not happen again or buy another motherboard brand at ones own expense meanwhile being lumbered with a paperwight motherboard. There also seems to be no pressure on what happens when the warranty runs out or any news on a warranty extension, BIOS updates where supposed to fix all these issues meanwhile people are reporting failures on later bios versions.

ASRock posted an update on the 5th of Feb to say now they are investigating it but it seems to focus only the 9xxx series.

I'm not sure why is this a point of contention for people and the tech tube space as before any person or company could pretty much say anything and they where taken at their word as the Intel issue proved this.
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What do you want them to do or say? GN and Wendell have already tested Asrock boards that "killed" CPUs and basically hit a brick wall. The 7000 series deaths we're seeing posted on Reddit and such are going to be a fraction of an already small amount of dying 9800X3D's.
 
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ATIorNvidia said:
What do you want them to do or say? GN and Wendell have already tested Asrock boards that "killed" CPUs and basically hit a brick wall. The 7000 series deaths we're seeing posted on Reddit and such are going to be a fraction of an already small amount of dying 9800X3D's.
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It is, at least for now, such a marginal problem and seemingly a combination of factors it is hard to reproduce in testing. Even on boards which are "killing" CPUs it appears CPU batch has relevance in how likely that is to happen.

The notable thing for me is that the failures are well covered by end user reports despite being a tiny problem, while despite the hysteria the 13th and 14th gen user reports are proportionally more muted, though in the case of the i9s the lower sales volume does make reports less prominent but does cover the actual but higher than 9000 series failure rate.
 
I wouldn't touch an ASROCK board with a bargepole now, a while ago I was going to get the Asock 870E Nova Wi-fi, but they're killing CPU's left, right and centre.
 
Personally never had much joy with ASRock or Asus, though no motherboard is brand is exactly ideal. I've been fairly lucky with Gigabyte so far.
 
Rroff said:
Personally never had much joy with ASRock or Asus, though no motherboard is brand is exactly ideal. I've been fairly lucky with Gigabyte so far.
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I've had Gigabyte, Asus and now Asrock. Probably a couple of others

Apart from possible X3D issues if I bought one, I'm happy with the Asrock, just as good as the other two brands.
 
Circa 14/15 months with Gigabyte, Asus and Asrock - all with X3D chips. All have/had BIOS updates when available, no issues with any.
 
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Rroff said:
Yeah it is somewhere in the region of 1000 failures at this point - there is a constant trickle of new reports of failures on the latest Reddit megathread and other tech forums, still a tiny number relative to the number of CPUs sold but still.

Did a bit of back checking and most reports are from people with like 6-12 year old accounts with a history so unlikely to be fake.
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Not seen anyone on YouTube stating 1000 verified CPU failures with Asrock AM5 yet. No doubt Gamer Nexus is still working on a three hour epic trilogy on the matter.

Gamer Nexus and PC Builder showed far less than 1000 in their last video's and not sure why we would not have the YouTubers happily posting evidence of 1000 verified to have been killed by Asrock failures. They love click bait and attention after all.

The reality is that AMD's own CPU failure rate is probably more likely than the motherboard issue.

And some may be 12 years old account wise. But there is also a fair share of amateurs messing things up and still running 3.15.

Personally I find it a little bemusing that we have went from around 200 a couple of months ago to over 1000 yet no videos or mass articles outside Reddit.

That would suggest 3.15 bios was actually safer than 3.40/3.50 etc despite the claims by Gamer Nexus and PC builder showing a clear decline as more moved to recent bios updates and newer CPU batches.
 
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I wouldn't touch an ASROCK board with a bargepole now, a while ago I was going to get the Asock 870E Nova Wi-fi, but they're killing CPU's left, right and centre.
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Left right and center seems a little far fetched.

I may be wrong, but at the last count Gamer Nexus did was it not around 7 CPU failures that happened in 2025 on an Asrock Nova X870E

Have you evidence thousands more Nova have set off CPU's like grenades?

I am assuming Asrock sold more than a dozen Nova X,870E.

I get the loss of confidence. But more people have probably seen the Loch Ness monster than seen an actual live exploding CPU in an Asrock motherboard.

If AMD CPU's have a higher failure rate. How many do you think may be blaming Asrock for a failed CPU that was actually an AMD failure?
 
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