Astra twin turbo diesel 212hp?

[Meetgrinder]

http://www.greencarcongress.com/2005/09/gm_unveils_opel.html

Did anything ever come of this? It made headlines a year or two ago at a motor show but all gone quiet since - just another concept never to be seen?

 

[ShakenNstirred]

its not an astra

 

[blueboy2001]

Thurlby Motors are selling modified Astra diesels with 200bhp, big brakes, bodykit and suspension mods by Triple Eight Racing who run the Astra BTCC team.

http://www.thurlbymotors.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=89&Itemid=99

 

[Meetgrinder]

That thurlby car looks good value for 18k, but that amount of torque going through the front wheels makes a few problems - eats tires, understeers like mad and chews clutches up.

I should know - my leon slips the clutch like mad in cold weather, with chip running over 300lb ft and around 190hp I suppose, just changed front set of tires after 14k, and they were bald as a coot. Car stays with stock wrx imprezas and porsche boxster once you get past the initial wheelspin up to 45 mph in anything less than perfectly dry conditions

I expect that astra will be a lighter car/better to drive with those brakes and chassis mods.

Can't justify chopping my car in when it's not yet a year old for something barely quicker, if at all, but would have done for a twin turbo diesel astra if they were coming out

 

[DreXeL]

I should know - my leon slips the clutch like mad in cold weather, with chip running over 300lb ft and around 190hp I suppose, just changed front set of tires after 14k, and they were bald as a coot. Car stays with stock wrx imprezas and porsche boxster once you get past the initial wheelspin up to 45 mph in anything less than perfectly dry conditions

Out of interest what RPM does your engine redline at?

 

[Bear]

Out of interest what RPM does your engine redline at?

At a guess 4.5k rpm ??

 

[Smiley Man]

At a guess 4.5k rpm ??

with the limiter at 5k?

thats what ive noticed on my mates punto HGT diesel anyway, would imagine its fauirly similar even though it has half the power

 

[DreXeL]

At a guess 4.5k rpm ??

That's what I was thinking. So that massive amount of torque is stifled by the need to have really tall gearing.......

 

[Meetgrinder]

5k rpm redline I think - smokes like hell at anything over 4k

And yeah, the gearing is stratospheric. Something like 37.5mph per 1000 in 6th. Theoretical top speed of 187, but you'd be lucky to get more than 145 out of it, and even then checking your calendar as it crawls up past 125, all on ya private roads of course

80mph clock speed is something like 2k rpm, makes for decent motorway mpg.

 

[merlin]

Jaysus, 80mph on mine gives 4,000rpm in SIXTH gear

 

[Meetgrinder]

That sounds a bit thrashy Something like 18 or 19mph per 1000 in top :S

 

[merlin]

That sounds a bit thrashy

Aye, just the way god intended.

 

[Smiley Man]

once it gets above about 3k in top gear theres hardly any power so it would really crawl to 140 odd

my mates punto gets to 100 easily enough, but after that it takes ages and ages to get to 115 80-100 in 5th is great though

 

[Meetgrinder]

With the chip turned off in mine, performance is *slightly* better than the 150hp petrol gti (mk4), chip boosts it up to something reasonable though. With a remap your friends td punto would be nippy I'll bet.

Saying that, even with the chip I'm bored with it, always looking out for the next decent diesel round the corner.

Used to have an audi around 350-400hp (would never put out full 2 bar boost on the rollers so not sure what max power was - over 344hp I know that for certain) and 405-450lb ft+ and it's hard to get excited after blasting around in that (the torque destroyed 1st gear, so I sold it rather than chuck more cash at it ). I used to want a TVR Cerbera till I went up against one in the audi, thought the TVRs were somewhat overrated after that

Still, had a reality check after that and now stick to diesels, but hoping to get a bike test sorted out this year. I love fast cars but £ for bhp, can't beat bikes.

 

[minidan]

/me looks for a twin turbo diesel engine in nova on google

 

[Slackworth]

The Astra linked to above has two modes:

1) Sport Button Off - On a standard Astra this means engine runs at standard and suspension is farly squidgy On the Astra above, it runs the car at 160BHP rather than full pelt which is better for economy and for getting off the line if needed.

2) Sport Button On - Standard Astra would be the same but suspension is slightly stiffer. On the 888, the car's power is ramped up to full and suspension/handling is improved.

 

[austinpowers]

That's what I was thinking. So that massive amount of torque is stifled by the need to have really tall gearing.......

My Astra does 27mph in first @ 5k rpm, 2nd 50mph @ 5krpm. 3rd 77mph @5krpm, 4th 98mph @5krpm and top?? not enough power against wind resistance etc.

So mine isn't that much different from the average petrol, well part from the nutty teg

 

[Jez]

Jaysus, 80mph on mine gives 4,000rpm in SIXTH gear

You have literally twice the usable rev range though

 

[Matt82]

my dearly departed audi did 2400rpm in 5th travelling at 80mph

 

[Fusion]

My Astra does 27mph in first @ 5k rpm, 2nd 50mph @ 5krpm. 3rd 77mph @5krpm, 4th 98mph @5krpm and top?? not enough power against wind resistance etc.

So mine isn't that much different from the average petrol, well part from the nutty teg

But power output is going to be decreasing after 4,000, so a shift is needed. In 2nd you're probably running out of steam at 40.