Asus 560Ti Higher temperatures

[Razyre]

Hi there.

I bought my Asus 560Ti around Christmas and one of the few things I loved about the card is that it stays really cool at idle, due to the dual fans (Around 30 degrees celcius at idle, never rises above 60 when gaming).

Recently, for some unknown reason, the temperatures have jumped, around 15 degrees, to 45. I've tried removing dust from the card, removing and inspecting it and can't find anything out of place. I've also tried to see if anything is taxing the card software wise and haven't found anything, the GPU is literally completely idled, using a minimum amount of memory.

I've felt the card, and around the back area, it is indeed pretty hot. Nothing has changed in my case environment that I can think of, I have 4 fans. One on the front sucking in, one on the top blowing out, 2 on a water cooler at the back blowing out (I think).

The temperatures did fall back down if I remember right, but have come back up again.

I do want to try and do a fresh windows build on another partition and see if the temperatures change at all, but I don't have the time right now.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

- Ross

 

[Cyber-Mav]

have you monitored the power states to see what they are in and voltage level being applied? you sure ambient temps are being taken into consideration?

have to tested the card using occt to load up the gpu to proper max usage and see what peak temps are getting to?

seems like you have a lot more testing to do.

do be aware that these cards can be modded to reduce power consumption and heat considerably at idle speeds. but first i suggest you learn how to walk before you try to run.

 

[Razyre]

have you monitored the power states to see what they are in and voltage level being applied? you sure ambient temps are being taken into consideration?

have to tested the card using occt to load up the gpu to proper max usage and see what peak temps are getting to?

seems like you have a lot more testing to do.

do be aware that these cards can be modded to reduce power consumption and heat considerably at idle speeds. but first i suggest you learn how to walk before you try to run.

I don't really see how ambient temperatures are going to affect the GPU by 15 degrees. Especially since my AMD Phenom II X4 is still running at 35-40 at idle as it always has(On watercooling... I really need to resit that cooler, my mate is getting 20 degrees on an X6 1090T, although it may run cooler anyway).

There is nothing that I have changed personally voltage wise because I'm a noob with voltages and the 560ti is a horrible overclocker with even the slightest overclocks causing artifacts (In the case of my card anyway, clocked at 830mhz).

As a noob, is there anything you can think of that would affect my voltage without any input from myself? Just off of the top of your head. I mean there is always the driver version for the card, just updated to the latest official Nvidia driver (301.42, another ****ing horrible driver from Nvidia... Can they not get it right? I'm getting worse performance in Battlefield 3 than I was getting on the 275 driver, by a good 10fps) and I was having these temperature rises even before that of which I am definitely sure of.

I was looking at speedfan to see if I could raise the speed of the fans in my computer, but I don't think the program is compatible with my motherboard (M3n78 Pro, others of the series were supported) so that was out of the window. Strangely in addition to this, when I jam the fans on the graphics card up to 70-100%, I only see about a 5 degree drop in temperature to around 40 degrees, compared to the 30 at idle I used to get. That really says to me that something is whacked.

Anyway, if you could suggest some ways to go about testing or give some possible causes of the problem (Any system information you need, just ask me and I'll try my best to answer) it'd be much appreciated, I'm willing to learn.

I have searched Google for a while and not found a problem of a similar nature to mine, so I presume it's a system/program specific issue.

Thanks

- Ross

 

[dokko]

My 560ti idle temps have jumped up 10c in recent weeks, it's the weather.

Top end hit a ridiculous 90c as well, think it's time to open a vent on the R3 till august.

 

[Razyre]

My 560ti idle temps have jumped up 10c in recent weeks, it's the weather.

Top end hit a ridiculous 90c as well, think it's time to open a vent on the R3 till august.

Nah, in my case it's nothing to do with the weather. It got hotter for a few days and the temps stayed the same and the temperature dived in the country over these last few days and the temperatures are still the same.

I'm gonna use afterburner to see if voltages make a difference to temperature (I'm only going to lower them, not make them higher).

EDIT: Voltages, clocks, nothing makes any difference whatsoever to the operating temperature of the card. I really am dumbfounded.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

as per my original instructions, you didnt bother to check the power states clocks and voltages to see if its changing correctly. (provide screenshots)

also you didnt bother to check peak temps using occt to see if there is an issue with cooling.
if you cant be bothered to take advice thats given then how can you expect to get answers to your problems?

 

[Cyber-Mav]

i just checked on my card here are the idle temps im getting on my gtx 560 ti. its an msi twin frozr 2 card.

i have a 50% idle fan speed on my card.

 

[maklabouhlel]

My 560Ti idles at 32 C with a single monitor. When I connect two monitors the idle temperature goes to 48 C.

 

[Cyber-Mav]

My 560Ti idles at 32 C with a single monitor. When I connect two monitors the idle temperature goes to 48 C.

when running dual monitors the performance state of the card does not stay in the 2D idle clock mode. it always runs at either low power 3d mode or full 3d clock speed mode.

 

[Razyre]

YES! Thank you maklabouhlel (Jesus that's a name xD)! You've solved my problem ^^

Basically, I have one Samsung monitor hooked up to the card of which I use all of the time. I then have a projector also hooked up to the card, which is turned off 90% of the time.

I have set windows to "Duplicate this display" to the projector, even when the projector is off so I don't have to change the setting.

As Cyber-Mav has explained, the performance state of the card is then altered and even when the second display isn't even on, the card is working overtime to power it.

I'm now straight back down to 31 degrees (Was at 43), with the fans running around 30% on auto.

Just as a quick question Cyber Mav, is your card overclocked, because your fans are running at 50% as opposed to my 30% (Yes I'm aware these are completely different coolers, but they should in theory have the same sort of efficiency) and at 50% my card has quite a prominent amount of sound emitted from it. Or are you in a warm environment? Because it's about 20 degrees celcius room temperature here at the moment I'd say.

I'd be interested in overclocking my 560Ti to see if I can get a little more performance out of it and would like to know if the voltage being too low may be the reason I'm experiencing artefacts if I try to bump the clock up to 900Mhz, or anything much above 830.

Thanks very much guys!

 

[Cyber-Mav]

had you have done what i suggested in my first post which is to check the performance states its running in, you can do this with something like gpu-z, you would have spotted that that card is not dropping to its idle 2d state and remaining in low power or full power 3d state.

as for fan speed it depends on the cards cooler and the case you use. i have a fairly solid case which blocks off a lot of noise so in my testing, which is done by using nvidia inspector to adjust fan speeds.

i crank the fan up to 100% and then listen to how loud the card is. and i then crank the fan down to the point where it cant be heard over the ambient noise level. thats 50% for me so i set it to that as the minimum fan duty cycle.

for me im running 925mhz on the core and i needed 1.025v to do it stable.
stock my card is 880mhz and runs at 0.987v.

although i wouldnt get the msi cards ever again. the fan on it is making a rattling noise at random times. after stripping the cooler off and checking the fans it turns out that MSI have cheaped out and used sleave bearing fans on the card which is daft.

i recently bought this: http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-056-AR&groupid=701&catid=57&subcat=787
for my gtx 260, and its fantastic. totally silent with peak temps in occt reaching 55c with fan at 70%. accelero fan is damn quiet but you can start to hear it once you go over 80% fan speed.
stock cooler makes a racket and a half.

if ocuk do the accelero xtreme for the gtx 560ti cards for 20 quid id get one in a jiffy.

 

[Razyre]

I didn't know that I had to use GPU-Z for that Nor did I have a clue before you mentioned in your latter comment what "States" meant. I'm a noob man, don't bite my head off for it.

Fair enough on the fan standpoint, I'm pretty happy with my Asus cooler (Just not the Nvidia part itself, my AMD 5770 never had a problem and this 560Ti has been plagued with issues.)

Strangely, my card is at 1.037 stock, running at 830mhz, in cotrast with that. I guess every card is different, but it is pretty disappointing for me. The card is unreliable, hasn't got optimised drivers and doesn't overclock at all well.

Would under or overvolting (not to the point you kill it) the card for a clock that I change to cause artifacting? I have never touched the voltage before and don't like to I use BF3 as my test, I go in to an empty server, spin around a bit and at the first sight of a black line I quit out and turn the clocks down lol.

That is a nice cooler, if I have any problems with mine (None to report after 6 months, this card is dropping below 30 on idle with the fan at 15%) then I'll have a look around and see if I can find that for the 560Ti!

Thanks!