Asus B450 plus gaming

tmarsh

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I have an Asus B450 plus gaming mobo with a Ryzen 5 3600X CPU. I'm looking at upgrading to a Ryzen 9 5900X. Would there be much difference in performance between the 9 and say, a 7 5800X? The 7 being a good bit cheaper.​

I posted the abovbe at the end of last year, the general consensus, since I'm not a serious gamer, was to go with the 5800X or a 5800X3D. Since then the Ryzen 9 price has dropped considerably so would give me extra oomph for not much more cost than any of the other two. However, would I be better considering another motherboard if I go with the 9? What are you thoughts, particularly as a newer board would possibly use DDR 5 ram. In short I am asking if it's better to upgrade or just go for a new system.
 
Depends on your usage. 5800X3D is, by far, the best gaming chip for AM4. Productivity wise it depends on your usage. In some workloads core count matters more.
 
If entirely for gaming either a 5700X if on a budget or a 5800X3D.

The 5900X isn't worth it outside of maybe one or two niche cases.
 
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Thanks. Not much gaming and moderate rendering so just general PC useage. The i5 is currently fine for me, I suppose i just want bigger and better!
 
tmarsh said:
Thanks. Not much gaming and moderate rendering so just general PC useage. The i5 is currently fine for me, I suppose i just want bigger and better!
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In rendering, if all cores are used (and of course, assuming CPU-oriented rendering, not GPU), then the 5900X is around 30 - 40% faster than the 5800X3D in the benchmarks @ TPU (3600X is included in the charts).

You may be interested in this review:
techgage.com

Cache-Rich: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Workstation Performance Review

First seen in its server-bound Milan-X EPYC, AMD's brought its 3D V-Cache technology to consumers with the new Ryzen 7 5800XD. With triple the L3 cache vs. the original 5800X, the right workloads could exhibit a notable performance-boost. For our first look at the 5800X3D, we're tackling our...
techgage.com techgage.com
 
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Tetras said:
In rendering, if all cores are used (and of course, assuming CPU-oriented rendering, not GPU), then the 5900X is around 30 - 40% faster than the 5800X3D in the benchmarks @ TPU (3600X is included in the charts).

You may be interested in this review:
techgage.com

Cache-Rich: AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D Workstation Performance Review

First seen in its server-bound Milan-X EPYC, AMD's brought its 3D V-Cache technology to consumers with the new Ryzen 7 5800XD. With triple the L3 cache vs. the original 5800X, the right workloads could exhibit a notable performance-boost. For our first look at the 5800X3D, we're tackling our...
techgage.com techgage.com
Thanks for the article. I may go with the 5900X as price-wise it's similar to the 5800X3d. It will be a cheap upgrade now and I can speculate on a higher than B mobo in the future.
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Another question on the B450 plus gaming mobo, I bought a two-drive nvme adapter card and it works fine with one drive but with two I get a hardware fault (according to the beeps) and PC won't boot. Google says the board must support PCIE bifurcation but I can't find any specs on it.
 
tmarsh said:
Another question on the B450 plus gaming mobo, I bought a two-drive nvme adapter card and it works fine with one drive but with two I get a hardware fault (according to the beeps) and PC won't boot. Google says the board must support PCIE bifurcation but I can't find any specs on it.
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Are you putting the card in the second full-length pci-e slot? If I look at the specs, this slot has a maximum of 4 lanes and since each M.2 drive likely requires 4 lanes each, I suspect that's the maximum you'll get working (1 drive).

Bifurcation would be helpful if you had 16 or 8 lanes available, since you could divide them to provide lanes for both slots, but when you only have 4 lanes available, I don't think it'll do you any good.
 
tmarsh said:
Another question on the B450 plus gaming mobo, I bought a two-drive nvme adapter card and it works fine with one drive but with two I get a hardware fault (according to the beeps) and PC won't boot. Google says the board must support PCIE bifurcation but I can't find any specs on it.
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Tetras said:
Are you putting the card in the second full-length pci-e slot? If I look at the specs, this slot has a maximum of 4 lanes and since each M.2 drive likely requires 4 lanes each, I suspect that's the maximum you'll get working (1 drive).

Bifurcation would be helpful if you had 16 or 8 lanes available, since you could divide them to provide lanes for both slots, but when you only have 4 lanes available, I don't think it'll do you any good.
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Chances are you'll need a B550 or X570 board. Although isn't there an X470 board available thst might have the required lanes?
 
Tetras said:
Are you putting the card in the second full-length pci-e slot? If I look at the specs, this slot has a maximum of 4 lanes and since each M.2 drive likely requires 4 lanes each, I suspect that's the maximum you'll get working (1 drive).

Bifurcation would be helpful if you had 16 or 8 lanes available, since you could divide them to provide lanes for both slots, but when you only have 4 lanes available, I don't think it'll do you any good.
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There are 2 pcie 16 slops and it's in neither of them so I'll do a swap and see what heppens.
 
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