ASUS mobo returned, need a new mobo

Arclite

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Hi All,

As you probably all have seen the ASUS debacle recently, after buying the ASUS TUF x670E gaming plus motherboard a few weeks ago (14-day return, thank God), I have just sent it back and waiting for a refund.

I still have a brand new 7800x3d and also bought 32gb G.Skill RAM that was compatible with the TUF board for EXPO, have one gen 4 1tb M.2. and 2TB gen 3 M.2 as storage and also have a 4080 in the box.

Is there any other reliable option I can go for? I am building with PCI gen 5 (GPU) and M.2 GEN 5 full bandwidth in mind so x670E are ok.

Not found a B650E board that fully supports PCI GEN 5 for gpu and GEN 5 for M.2 so have not really looked there.

Is anyone currently using an MSI/ASrock/Gigabyte x670e board and are ok after the bios updates?

Please list a few options for me to go through.

Thanks in Advance.
 
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I'm probably gonna be in a similar boat, not sure what to go for, nothing quite ticks all the boxes like the Asus did.
I think so far I'm mostly being drawn towards the MSI X670E Tomahawk or Carbon.
My main issue with both is that 2 of the m.2 slots sit right behind where the graphics card will be and I'm worried that the lack of airflow combined with hot air coming off the graphics card might cause the NVMe drives to get a little warm...
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
I'm probably gonna be in a similar boat, not sure what to go for, nothing quite ticks all the boxes like the Asus did.
I think so far I'm mostly being drawn towards the MSI X670E Tomahawk or Carbon.
My main issue with both is that 2 of the m.2 slots sit right behind where the graphics card will be and I'm worried that the lack of airflow combined with hot air coming off the graphics card might cause the NVMe drives to get a little warm...
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I've got the carbon and I've not had any issues with the two nvmes in those two slots. One of them gen 4 the other gen 3. That's with a very hot 3080 fe over the top.
 
Arclite said:
Hi All,

As you probably all have seen the ASUS debacle recently, after buying the ASUS TUF x670E gaming plus motherboard a few weeks ago (14-day return, thank God), I have just sent it back and waiting for a refund.

I still have a brand new 7800x3d and also bought 32gb G.Skill RAM that was compatible with the TUF board for EXPO, have one gen 4 1tb M.2. and 2TB gen 3 M.2 as storage and also have a 4080 in the box.

Is there any other reliable option I can go for? I am building with PCI gen 5 (GPU) and M.2 GEN 5 full bandwidth in mind so x670E are ok.

Not found a B650E board that fully supports PCI GEN 5 for gpu and GEN 5 for M.2 so have not really looked there.

Is anyone currently using an MSI/ASrock/Gigabyte x670e board and are ok after the bios updates?

Please list a few options for me to go through.

Thanks in Advance.
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I do not recommend Asus Mobos. Just go with MSI or Gigabyte.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
That's good to know, thanks.

How do you find the Carbon in general?
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I just did some temperature checks on those drives. I ran a game in the background pushing GPU temps up to around 80-83c, CPU was around early 70s and then tried a crystaldiskmark test at the same time on the Gen 4 drive which tends to run a bit hotter. It topped out at 73. Which was well under the 95C thermal throttle point of the drive.

As for my thoughts on the carbon in general, honestly I've been reasonably happy. EXPO worked instantly with no issues (6000C30 so not too difficult but decent). The first bios I installed did have the SoC set to 1.35 which was a bit too high, but they were prompt to release the next bios which caps it at 1.3v. It's also very easy to drop the SoC, and it does actually listen, setting the SoC to 1.15v in the normal place locked it there. In terms of variance under load I've only seen the SoC go up by roughly 0.016v so it seems pretty tight unlike the discussions about the Asus boards.

The bios in general is easy enough to use so far. I've not messed with RAM overclocking yet, but curve optimising has been painless.

I enabled the memory context restore in the bios for boot up times and it massively helped for when you're just restarting. Boot times are maybe a tad long from a cold boot due to memory training but that seems like a common issue among AM5 boards.
 
Rawr said:
I just did some temperature checks on those drives. I ran a game in the background pushing GPU temps up to around 80-83c, CPU was around early 70s and then tried a crystaldiskmark test at the same time on the Gen 4 drive which tends to run a bit hotter. It topped out at 73. Which was well under the 95C thermal throttle point of the drive.

As for my thoughts on the carbon in general, honestly I've been reasonably happy. EXPO worked instantly with no issues (6000C30 so not too difficult but decent). The first bios I installed did have the SoC set to 1.35 which was a bit too high, but they were prompt to release the next bios which caps it at 1.3v. It's also very easy to drop the SoC, and it does actually listen, setting the SoC to 1.15v in the normal place locked it there. In terms of variance under load I've only seen the SoC go up by roughly 0.016v so it seems pretty tight unlike the discussions about the Asus boards.

The bios in general is easy enough to use so far. I've not messed with RAM overclocking yet, but curve optimising has been painless.

I enabled the memory context restore in the bios for boot up times and it massively helped for when you're just restarting. Boot times are maybe a tad long from a cold boot due to memory training but that seems like a common issue among AM5 boards.
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Is your memory running in EXPO?
 
Rawr said:
I just did some temperature checks on those drives. I ran a game in the background pushing GPU temps up to around 80-83c, CPU was around early 70s and then tried a crystaldiskmark test at the same time on the Gen 4 drive which tends to run a bit hotter. It topped out at 73. Which was well under the 95C thermal throttle point of the drive.

As for my thoughts on the carbon in general, honestly I've been reasonably happy. EXPO worked instantly with no issues (6000C30 so not too difficult but decent). The first bios I installed did have the SoC set to 1.35 which was a bit too high, but they were prompt to release the next bios which caps it at 1.3v. It's also very easy to drop the SoC, and it does actually listen, setting the SoC to 1.15v in the normal place locked it there. In terms of variance under load I've only seen the SoC go up by roughly 0.016v so it seems pretty tight unlike the discussions about the Asus boards.

The bios in general is easy enough to use so far. I've not messed with RAM overclocking yet, but curve optimising has been painless.

I enabled the memory context restore in the bios for boot up times and it massively helped for when you're just restarting. Boot times are maybe a tad long from a cold boot due to memory training but that seems like a common issue among AM5 boards.
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Thanks for doing that.
Sounds OK, not a glowing review for a ~£500 motherboard though!
I'm not sure what the throttle speeds of WD SN850X drives are, but 73ºC is a lot warmer than I've seen my drives on my current system, but I've not pushed them quite this much, might be interesting to do.
I wonder if it's worth the extra over the Tomahawk.
 
GoogalyMoogaly said:
Thanks for doing that.
Sounds OK, not a glowing review for a ~£500 motherboard though!
I'm not sure what the throttle speeds of WD SN850X drives are, but 73ºC is a lot warmer than I've seen my drives on my current system, but I've not pushed them quite this much, might be interesting to do.
I wonder if it's worth the extra over the Tomahawk.
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Well this is a drive that's always ran hot to be fair. I think it ran even hotter in my old system where it was situated in the NVMe slot that sits just below the CPU. It was my OS drive back then though.

I agree about the prices though. I think they're ridiculous across the board. I was lucky that I got a bit of a discount through work. I only really justified it because I hope to use the board a long time.
Arclite said:
Is your memory running in EXPO?
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Yeah. Just with manually reduced SoC
 
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