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ASUS Physx Cards
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Pottsey said:“Just when I thought you worked for Ageia “
Oops sorry……what I meant to say was err…. I don’t think everyone should get a PPU now but you should all be buying them first thing next year once the game list is bigger.
your named pottsey because im guessing you smoke pot if you you think its worth buying a ppu.
even if the ppu was being sold for 50 quid i still would not spend my money on it. its just useless. look at GRAW, it makes the game even worse.
the ppu is underpowered to do anything other than waste power and money.
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As Sony licensed the Ageia SDK for the PS3 does anyone think that there may be more Ageia PPU enabled games coming through with games being developed across PS3, xBox and PC platforms.
Maybe then it will be worth buying one.
Maybe then it will be worth buying one.
“its just useless. look at GRAW, it makes the game even worse.”
Actually if you look at GRAW with the new GRAW patch + new PPU drivers it makes the game better. The large problems like massive slow downs where fixed months ago. Why are you and others judging the PPU on 1 game the first game to come out and on the first set of bugged drivers? Did you even bother to look at the other games or newer drivers?
Too many people are basing there opinions on what the PPU was like 5 months ago not what it’s like today. When you’re choosing a 3Dcard to buy you don’t look at 1 game only and the first set of drivers do you? You look at multiple games and recent drivers.
"the ppu is underpowered to do anything other than waste power and money."
Then why is it boosting FPS by 30 to 60% in some games? That doesn’t sound underpowered to me. Its only a waste of money if you dont own any PPU enabled games. If you own PPU enabled games then its usefull due to the extra speed and new effects.
Something that boosts FPS and adds new effects is not useless. Sure it might be limited due to lack of game support but its not useless.
Actually if you look at GRAW with the new GRAW patch + new PPU drivers it makes the game better. The large problems like massive slow downs where fixed months ago. Why are you and others judging the PPU on 1 game the first game to come out and on the first set of bugged drivers? Did you even bother to look at the other games or newer drivers?
Too many people are basing there opinions on what the PPU was like 5 months ago not what it’s like today. When you’re choosing a 3Dcard to buy you don’t look at 1 game only and the first set of drivers do you? You look at multiple games and recent drivers.
"the ppu is underpowered to do anything other than waste power and money."
Then why is it boosting FPS by 30 to 60% in some games? That doesn’t sound underpowered to me. Its only a waste of money if you dont own any PPU enabled games. If you own PPU enabled games then its usefull due to the extra speed and new effects.
Something that boosts FPS and adds new effects is not useless. Sure it might be limited due to lack of game support but its not useless.
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“im basing the ppu's performance on its one killer main app, cellfactor. and that game ran crap with the ppu so that says it all. agiea should go bankrupt for even pulling out such a crap product from the beginning.“
Cellfactor with cloth has the PPU over 95% faster then the CPU or the minimum FPS is 50% faster without cloth and a PPU. So its not that bad. Still lets all judge a PPU on a beta game that’s not even finished or been fully optimised yet. Do you know what beta means? Well Cellfactor is in beta stage. Betas are known to be slow with plenty of room for improvements.
Look at full none beta games
Not so under powered and useless now is it? Its fair to say its limited due to the small list of supported games but to say its useless is just wrong.
Cellfactor with cloth has the PPU over 95% faster then the CPU or the minimum FPS is 50% faster without cloth and a PPU. So its not that bad. Still lets all judge a PPU on a beta game that’s not even finished or been fully optimised yet. Do you know what beta means? Well Cellfactor is in beta stage. Betas are known to be slow with plenty of room for improvements.
Look at full none beta games
Not so under powered and useless now is it? Its fair to say its limited due to the small list of supported games but to say its useless is just wrong.
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Pottsey, like most people here I am not convinced its worth spending the kind of cash required on the PhysX card. One game, CoV's is not enough to convince me its worth buying and god, you have posted that graph enough.
As other have pointed out, if you read the full review Anandtech is not convinced either. Until a) its cheaper and b) its better supported its just not worth it imo. You can bleat your 30-60% performace boost all you want. (I don't even play CoVs).
I don't honestly know why you feel you need to defend it to the hilt, if you are happy with it fine, if others don't want it or think its a waste of money thats up to them.
Get over it mate and move on.
As other have pointed out, if you read the full review Anandtech is not convinced either. Until a) its cheaper and b) its better supported its just not worth it imo. You can bleat your 30-60% performace boost all you want. (I don't even play CoVs).
I don't honestly know why you feel you need to defend it to the hilt, if you are happy with it fine, if others don't want it or think its a waste of money thats up to them.
Get over it mate and move on.
“Pottsey, like most people here I am not convinced its worth spending the kind of cash required on the PhysX card. One game, CoV's is not enough to convince me its worth buying and god, you have posted that graph enough.”
I posted the graph twice no need to make out like I posted it loads. Also I am not trying to convince you or anyone else to buy it. Why do so many people think I want everyone to buy it? As I keep saying it’s not worth it for most people but that doesn’t mean it’s useless. I don’t recall saying your wrong go and buy it. All I am doing is pointing out most of bad things people say about the PPU are not true.
I am just trying to correct the lies and false facts so many people are spreading about the PPU. That way people can make there own mind up on if it’s useful for them or not. Everyone who’s posted threads asking if they should get a PPU I have posted the good and bad points in getting one. Never once did I say go get it no matter what.
It’s hard to have a dissuasion on the PPU when people are lying or spreading false facts like it slows down your games or saying it’s useless.
“Get over it mate and move on.”
Move on to what? 3Dcards are boring right now there’s been nothing new or interesting in generations. Hopefully that will change with DX10 but untill then at least for me PPU and Havok FX are the only new and interesting thing worth talking about.
I posted the graph twice no need to make out like I posted it loads. Also I am not trying to convince you or anyone else to buy it. Why do so many people think I want everyone to buy it? As I keep saying it’s not worth it for most people but that doesn’t mean it’s useless. I don’t recall saying your wrong go and buy it. All I am doing is pointing out most of bad things people say about the PPU are not true.
I am just trying to correct the lies and false facts so many people are spreading about the PPU. That way people can make there own mind up on if it’s useful for them or not. Everyone who’s posted threads asking if they should get a PPU I have posted the good and bad points in getting one. Never once did I say go get it no matter what.
It’s hard to have a dissuasion on the PPU when people are lying or spreading false facts like it slows down your games or saying it’s useless.
“Get over it mate and move on.”
Move on to what? 3Dcards are boring right now there’s been nothing new or interesting in generations. Hopefully that will change with DX10 but untill then at least for me PPU and Havok FX are the only new and interesting thing worth talking about.
Some of you guys really should cut Pottsey some slack me thinks...
He's giving his opinion based on the fact he has experience of using a Physx card, which most people posting here do not, myself included. So, in my book, that makes him qualified to comment on his experiences with it, does it not?
The posters berating him are also giving their opinion, mostly based on what they've read or heard about, but why does some of it come across as sounding a bit 'flat earth society'?
Everybody should try and stick to the facts I reckon, otherwise this thread is pointless and will just turn unpleasant...
My comment from reading all of this?
Worth the money at current prices? = No
Totally Useless? = No
Potential for the future? = Yes
Other Physx type solutions are under development as people have said, and as we all know, competition in any sector is good! Pretty soon we'll have a choice of Physx type options.
Physics for me play a massive part in how enjoyable games are. You only have to look at how good HL2's Physics effects are compared to even COD2 to see what they add to the game.
He's giving his opinion based on the fact he has experience of using a Physx card, which most people posting here do not, myself included. So, in my book, that makes him qualified to comment on his experiences with it, does it not?
The posters berating him are also giving their opinion, mostly based on what they've read or heard about, but why does some of it come across as sounding a bit 'flat earth society'?
Everybody should try and stick to the facts I reckon, otherwise this thread is pointless and will just turn unpleasant...
My comment from reading all of this?
Worth the money at current prices? = No
Totally Useless? = No
Potential for the future? = Yes
Other Physx type solutions are under development as people have said, and as we all know, competition in any sector is good! Pretty soon we'll have a choice of Physx type options.
Physics for me play a massive part in how enjoyable games are. You only have to look at how good HL2's Physics effects are compared to even COD2 to see what they add to the game.
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If the same few ppl didnt keep comming out with the same put downs time & time again he would not have to keep defending it time & time again. it works both ways.
The fact is its not useless like the chart shows, but also its not worth what they are charging for the card.
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Tooks said:Some of you guys really should cut Pottsey some slack me thinks...
He's giving his opinion based on the fact he has experience of using a Physx card, which most people posting here do not, myself included. So, in my book, that makes him qualified to comment on his experiences with it, does it not?
The posters berating him are also giving their opinion, mostly based on what they've read or heard about, but why does some of it come across as sounding a bit 'flat earth society'?
Everybody should try and stick to the facts I reckon, otherwise this thread is pointless and will just turn unpleasant...
My comment from reading all of this?
Worth the money at current prices? = No
Totally Useless? = No
Potential for the future? = Yes
Other Physx type solutions are under development as people have said, and as we all know, competition in any sector is good! Pretty soon we'll have a choice of Physx type options.
Physics for me play a massive part in how enjoyable games are. You only have to look at how good HL2's Physics effects are compared to even COD2 to see what they add to the game.