Athlon 6400+

[milkinc13]

will Intel ramp up the speeds of C2D so that AMD will be unable to release any chip that can come close until Barcelona/Phenom. It will be roughly 10-15% below the E6850, with limited OC abilities

 

[Cob]

Well they've only just released the 3ghz E6850. That'll likely do them for a while.

And not forgetting their three quad-core CPUs, something AMD won't manage for a few months.

 

[milkinc13]

Well they've only just released the 3ghz E6850. That'll likely do them for a while.

And not forgetting their three quad-core CPUs, something AMD won't manage for a few months.

& from what i've heard they could be delayed

 

[Cob]

Quite possibly.

And then Penryn will be upon us.

 

[~>Dg<~]

gotta justify them c2duo quads

 

[helmutcheese]

Actually AMD are the only ones with Native Quads, your current Intel quad are 2 dual cores stuck on a wafer.

 

[milkinc13]

Actually AMD are the only ones with Native Quads, your current Intel quad are 2 dual cores stuck on a wafer.

that's also what Intel did with dual core, 2 single cores stuck onto the same wafer.

 

[Vertigo]

that's also what Intel did with dual core, 2 single cores stuck onto the same wafer.

Err, no.

The dual-cores have a shared L2 cache, enabling them to collaborate much more efficiently. The quads are two dual-cores, so whilst each dual has the shared L2 cache, there's nothing shared between the two dual-cores and all communication between them must go via the FSB.

Barcelona/Phenom will be what AMD is calling "true" quad core with a shared L3 cache for all four processor cores.

 

[stickroad]

Intels first Dual Core range (Smithfield) is just basically two 90-nm process Pentium 4 Prescott cores put together in a single die.

Then later Presler was released and these were the first proper Dual cores so to speak.

Now Kentsfield is just like the Smithfields but 2 Core 2 Duos on a single die.

 

[snowdog]

^ What he says is correct, quads are 2 intel dual cores on 1 die, same as the early intel dual core cpu's ( smithfields ), later preslers and conroe's were native dual core cpu's iirc.

Still, can't see much wrong with that, it still performs better as anything so...

 

[stickroad]

^ What he says is correct, quads are 2 intel dual cores on 1 die, same as the early intel dual core cpu's ( smithfields ), later preslers and conroe's were native dual core cpu's iirc.

Still, can't see much wrong with that, it still performs better as anything so...

Cheers snowdog, just wanted to double check.

Penryns are still just like the Kenstfields right but the 45NM technology should allow them to run cooler than the current Quads?

Nehalem is going to be Intels Native Quads cores right?

 

[Cob]

Yip.

 

[BAMBI]

I just like how at every new generation of cpus the AMD and intel equivalents perform very close to one another. Why not just bring out a 8 or 16 core already and dominate the competition?

 

[Cob]

Cos there's too much money to be made in between

 

[BAMBI]

Cos there's too much money to be made in between

Sure but theres more money to be made of one company can dominate and become a monopoly

 

[MikeTimbers]

I just like how at every new generation of cpus the AMD and intel equivalents perform very close to one another. Why not just bring out a 8 or 16 core already and dominate the competition?

Sun have 8-core chips where each core can run four simultaneous threads for a 32-thread machine. The OS thinks it has 32 cpus

And I have loads of them!

 

[BAMBI]

Sun have 8-core chips where each core can run four simultaneous threads for a 32-thread machine. The OS thinks it has 32 cpus

And I have loads of them!

well there we go then forget intel and amd go for these bad boys