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Athlon X2 3600 £<£ pd805!

Angilion said:
Also, AMD don't make S939 chips any more. So I don't see them releasing a new model on S939.
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Exactly! It will most likely be socket AM2 (CPU-Z does have glitches, or the above chip could just be an engineering sample) which means a new mobo and DDR2 RAM. Isn't really cheap when you add it all up. You might aswell buy a s939 X2 3800.
 
hmm, this is a very good cpu to use in building a budget dual core machine. would be a good machine for general windows use such as music, surfing the net, office, films etc.

question is how would it compare against the 805d? i could get this 3600+ cpu and cheapo asrock board like the one i currently have and put a general office machine together.
 
It must be able to beat the 805d. Considering the 805 is 2.66ghz with a horrifically slow fsb, and the 3600 is probably equivalent to dual 2.8ghz p4s. The only thing the 805 has in its favour is the high multi and low bus compared to the 3600, which might be more appealing for overclocking. I still think the 3600 would be better. Faster at stock and probably faster clocked at extreme speeds.
 
Harrigan said:
It must be able to beat the 805d. Considering the 805 is 2.66ghz with a horrifically slow fsb, and the 3600 is probably equivalent to dual 2.8ghz p4s. The only thing the 805 has in its favour is the high multi and low bus compared to the 3600, which might be more appealing for overclocking. I still think the 3600 would be better. Faster at stock and probably faster clocked at extreme speeds.
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Why I am buying one if they do come out on 939, I will have a direct comparison between both companies lowest end dual core chips, how well they OC and perform at stock :)
 
Harrigan said:
It must be able to beat the 805d. Considering the 805 is 2.66ghz with a horrifically slow fsb, and the 3600 is probably equivalent to dual 2.8ghz p4s. The only thing the 805 has in its favour is the high multi and low bus compared to the 3600, which might be more appealing for overclocking. I still think the 3600 would be better. Faster at stock and probably faster clocked at extreme speeds.
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i very much doubt that the x2 3600 will be equilivent to 2 x 2.8ghz as it only has 256kb cache i think the 820 would kill it but i think it would be equivilant to the 805 maybe a little worse
 
I think clock for clock the 805 would beat the X2 3600.

Yes, the initial FSB is horrible, but that can be overclocked. Your not going to solder on some extra L2 cache any time soon.

That said, my missus Sempron 2600 with its 128K cache does ok in games. Admittedly, its overclocked to 2.2Ghz from 1.6, but it does not compare with 805 in the least.
 
But the K8 is not very dependant on cache size at all, and I would imagine on AM2 with DDR2 memory it would be less so. I think the 3600 would perform only marginally lower than the 3800, which is way above the 805.
 
Harrigan said:
But the K8 is not very dependant on cache size at all, and I would imagine on AM2 with DDR2 memory it would be less so. I think the 3600 would perform only marginally lower than the 3800, which is way above the 805.
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I agree, after all, 2.0Ghz with 256kb cache on a single core would be pretty much a little faster than a 3000+ venice @ 1.8Ghz 512kb cache, and that's definately better than an 805 in games at least.
 
It's kind of a hybrid between sempron and athlon. It supports the Athlon's 1000MT/s HTT vs the semprons 800MT/s, and the pacifica virtualisation tech, which the semprons are missing. The only similarity is the size of the cache. Hmmm, if these are failed Manchesters, I wonder if some unlocking could be done....no idea how possible this is with K8 chips.
 
It's probably called an Athlon because:

a) It could be used eventually to completely separate Athlons as dual-core and sempron as single core

b) It'd be very difficult to know what to call an X2 Sempron, in terms of rating, especially if it's the only one.

c) People would probably more likely buy Athlon than Sempron just because of the name.
 
"would be a good machine for general windows use such as music, surfing the net, office, films etc."

my footrest P3 1Ghz is a good machine for all that :P
 
Rick_Barnes said:
"would be a good machine for general windows use such as music, surfing the net, office, films etc."

my footrest P3 1Ghz is a good machine for all that :P
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Agreed, almost any cpu can be used for general windows use. The X2 is dual core, it's capable of much more.
 
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