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ATi 4870 and WoW.

Orm

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Bought a 4870 512 (http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showp...5 TV-Out/Dual DVI/HDMI (PCI-Express) - Retail) around 6 weeks ago, and have experienced sub-30fps frame rates since - my old 8800GT performed better in WoW.

Hundreds of people are experiencing the same issue - check link - and it seems to be directly related to the 4870 card. I've been through 8.10, 8.11 and 8.12 driver releases, non of which have solved the problem.

My question is - where does this fall in terms of a warranty remit? The card works fine in all other games - Grid, FC2, GTA4 etc - but WoW is my main game and simple the card is ******** here.

Can I return under warranty or I am stuck ?
 
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sounds more like a driver issue, or an issue with WoW itself. I doubt you could get it replaced since it's not faulty in any way. I guess you just chose a bad card :(

Having said that, if its mainly for playing WoW, your 8800GT is more than enough to give you 60+ fps in any resolution. It's generally your CPU that determines your maximum FPS in WoW.
 
as its not faulty then i doubt your qualified for returns. best bet is to check current drivers/whether they need updating and if that doesnt work then blame the card :confused:
 
I dont know what CPU you are using but I recently built my GF a pc based around this gfx card and a dual core E8500.

At 16x10 She never drops below 50fps even in city areas like Shattrah and Stormwind and the average i would say is around 80fps peaking 140+

Using the 8.11s I have to say it runs as smooth as silk....I do think WoW is more CPU intolerant of older chips. We are both relatively hardcore players and on my faithful old heap of a current pc i can easily see my framerates drop to sub20 or even sub10 on raids.

Waiting for that exchange rate to improve a bit before i spend lol
 
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Im using an ATI x1950 and a dual core 2.4 processor. When WOTLK was realeased it was running really badly for me on Vista (10-30 fps and in some cases even lower like the starth of WSG). However, in XP I get smooth constant 60 FPS all the time everywhere with all settings on high including 4X AA
 
Aye, I play, and going about my everydau in the wilderness at 1920x1200 with 4xAA I typically get 40-60fps, so I'd say something wrong with your setup first. WoW is surprisingly CPU heavy. Also try switching Catalyst AI to advanced and see if that helps at all :)
 
Playing at 1680x1050, CPU is a Q6600 clocked to 3.4 gig.

Really don't understand it, perhaps need to upgrade the CPU to something more "new". Highly frustrating that all other games run at stupidly high frame rates and WoW stutters. I'm a hardcore player in a World top 3 guild and it's heavily affecting my ability to raid new content..grumble grumble.
 
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Playing at 1680x1050, CPU is a Q6600 clocked to 3.4 gig.

Really don't understand it, perhaps need to upgrade the CPU to something more "new". Highly frustrating that all other games run at stupidly high frame rates and WoW stutters. I'm a hardcore player in a World top 3 guild and it's heavily affecting my ability to raid new content..grumble grumble.
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A world top 3 guild eh? I thought shadows were the problem anyways? just disable them.
 
Have you got use application settings ticked in the drivers, thats what kills it for me on the 4870.
 
Wow is quite sensitive to CPU, but only in the extremes (It hates the old Pentium IV's even the P4D's). But give it a core 2 duo and a respectable graphics card and it does ok.

Personally I think wow does suffer from CPU limitations just as much as GPU, but my E6700 [email protected] (speedstep enabled), combined with a 8800GTX(stock speed), and I get 45-60fps during most raids, with a few events dropping my system to around 30-35fps. Still playable though.

I play with just about everything maxed out, 1920x1200 with AA at X4 (X8 worked fine, but the GTX gets a bit funny at X8 if I tab out to many times (to check my DKP or whatever.)

The same graphics card in a P4D computer gave just 6fps at Kalecgos in Sunwell for example.

95% of WOW's graphics engine seems to be in a single thread, having a single fast CPU is better than a quad in many cases, although at 3.4Ghz your quad should still be outperforming my dual @ 2.99

I run with shadows ON for what its worth :).

I wonder if the i7 will provide any extra oomph for WOW. Wow really depends on single core IPC for performance.
 
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Playing at 1680x1050, CPU is a Q6600 clocked to 3.4 gig.

Really don't understand it, perhaps need to upgrade the CPU to something more "new". Highly frustrating that all other games run at stupidly high frame rates and WoW stutters. I'm a hardcore player in a World top 3 guild and it's heavily affecting my ability to raid new content..grumble grumble.
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You're running the same CPU as me roughly same speed too. *see my sig*

I'm running V64, 4GB, Catalyst 8.12 drivers, can't remember if Im running the ASUS top bios or not anymore lol
Default settings for 3d in the CCC bar CatAI set to advanced. As I say yesterday sitting in Gjalberon, maxed settings inc shadows, 4xAA 1920x1200 I was getting 60fps. Mod wise I run reasonably mod light, xperl, fubar that kinda thing.
 
I actually literally get higher FPS on maxed Crysis than I do in World of Warcraft.

Don't really understand. The game runs fine on all PC's, but it doesn't run really good on any PC that I've ever seen.
 
i think its just the sheer size of the game, and the fact is so CPU intensive. a lot of MMO's are the same. Better CPU = better framerates
 
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i think its just the sheer size of the game, and the fact is so CPU intensive. a lot of MMO's are the same. Better CPU = better framerates
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Actually it could well be that.

I recall seeing that ATI cards perform poorly in MS Flight Simulator due to the Catalyst drivers hogging the CPU far more than NVidia drivers, WoW is pretty CPU intensive so it could be the same story here.
 
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