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ATI LOOKS GOOD R700

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http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4327&Itemid=34


It looks like ATI wants to go multi core and this time it can put more smaller cores on a single chip. You can expect that the high-end R700 might end up with more than four smaller cores that will shape up this card.

This is why R680, Radeon 3870 X2 is extremely important for ATI’s future, as it looks like that the future is really multicore. We still don’t know if G100 uses the same approach, but we would not be surprised.

R700XT, the high-end version of the chip will use four or more smaller cores to reach the performance crown and, in this case, you need an excellent Crossfire, multichip driver.

R680 is actually a warm-up product, as ATI will test the Crossfire X with two, three and four cores, and this will give them predictions about the future. R700 is still scheduled for middle of 2008.



http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4346&Itemid=1

R700 looks like an interesting chip as it will change a lot of things. Nvidia currently talk about clusters but most of these chips are blocks of functional units divided in these so called clusters.

ATI will do a step forward and will introduce its mini core that will be one small part of a larger chip. ATI can use just one R700 core to get an entry level chip, two cores will make a mainstream card and four R700 cores should take care of the high end.

A single R700 core has just below 300 million transistors and you can do the math that even four R700 cores means over a billion transistors and a lot of graphics processing power.

http://www.fudzilla.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=4348&Itemid=1

Nvidia just went for 65 nanometre, ATI is at 55 nanometre and it looks like the R700 might be the world’s first 45 nanometre graphics chip.

A 45 nanometre chip is at least 30 percent smaller than 55nm and its more than 50 percent smaller than 65 nanometre chip and at the same time this means that it will be way cooler than any 65 or 55 nanometre chip.

This also means lower heat dissipation and higher clock speeds, but we still don’t know G100 can be the same deal and it can be made of many smaller cores as well. This is how it is possible to put just a bit less than 300 million transistors on a 72 sq mm die.

Well there will be not doubt that nvidia will do something similar billion transistors sounds good and if everything will be fine there will be some good power in the cards hopefully they they will not mess it up as r600 and if theres no delays middle of 2008 sounds good ;)
 
Multicore seems to be the way forward now! ATi hopefully have a good grasp of the tech and can pull something special out when it finally gets round to the R700! :D
 
is it bad resource page ? :confused:
Fudzilla and The Inquirer are generally regarded as the "tabloids" of hardware sites. More often than not they don't state their sources and a lot of their articles turn out to be bogus when the stuff they're talking about actually comes around. Interestingly Fuad of Fudzilla actually used to work for The Inquirer.
 
Yup big pinch of Fud Salt but if it is what ATI need to do to get back into the game then I am all for it. I just feel Xfire needs to be made a little better first and they need to sort out the only 1 monitor issue.
 
ye its to early to know stuff but hopefully it will turn out this way and if fudzilla bogus can you give me some good resource page. ty ;)
 
especially the 45nm bit, I can't see how they will do it, they have just gone 55nm, an architecture upgrade, a die shrink and dual die all in one move.
 
It might be worth looking back and seeing how ATI were so good in the past, why was the 9700 series so good? and the 5000 series so bad?
 
Its funny because this seems to be the route 3dfx were beginning to take with the voodoo 5 series and up, not reliance of one super powerful chip but numerous smaller less powerful chips which would have a larger combined power. Back then though al you got from the nv fanboys was "zomg 3dfx NEED more chips to beat the geforce series" funny how many years later it seems both ati and nvidia are now going to go the same route 3dfx were going 7 years ago.


Ati though i think we all know that lately every new core has delays whereas the refresh's come out faster (as they should). Be interesting to see if they can deliver on time a card that delivers good performance, doesn't generate a ton of heat and has a quiet hsf and a large volume available on release day.
 
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If they can fully utilise the power of each core then I'd say the future is promising, but if it's anything like using quad core for crysis I'd say forget about it. It's all about the drivers at the end of the day.
 
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