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ATI X2900 XTX postponed Indefinately?

Cartho

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Was thumbing through the July PC zone this morning. Found something interesting written in the editorial from the HARDWARE editor.

Apparently they have run into big problems with the memory - 1GB is really giving them headaches.
Sven Olsen of the "DailyTech" website (but this could be taken with a pinch of salt, no confirmation or denial from ATI) - which was one of the first sites to benchmark the X2900XTX (in a synthetic benchmark, not game benchmarks) has even suggested that "because of the huge memory costs, the card may well never become a reality"

I hope for ATI's sake that this is all just some bloke who has no clue about what he is talking, for if this is true then it is not looking good for them... Especially as G90 is on the way now. Even if the 2900 XTX does come out this year, chances are it will only be a bit faster than the G80 - where G90 will be a second gen DX10 card and could well feature vastly improved perforance in DX9 and DX 10...
 
Cartho said:
Was thumbing through the July PC zone this morning. Found something interesting written in the editorial from the HARDWARE editor.

Apparently they have run into big problems with the memory - 1GB is really giving them headaches.
Sven Olsen of the "DailyTech" website (but this could be taken with a pinch of salt, no confirmation or denial from ATI) - which was one of the first sites to benchmark the X2900XTX (in a synthetic benchmark, not game benchmarks) has even suggested that "because of the huge memory costs, the card may well never become a reality"

I hope for ATI's sake that this is all just some bloke who has no clue about what he is talking, for if this is true then it is not looking good for them... Especially as G90 is on the way now. Even if the 2900 XTX does come out this year, chances are it will only be a bit faster than the G80 - where G90 will be a second gen DX10 card and could well feature vastly improved perforance in DX9 and DX 10...
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ati are skipping the XTX (R650 and higher) and going streight for a 55nm R690 or R700 i think.

but the 1gb GDDR4 HD2900XT but not XTX has allready been made, dont know if its coming to england tho, alltho i dont know that much about it but there is one.
 
Yeah XTX was canned as it was no better than the XT, the 2900 is all we've got till next Jan/Feb now.

The R650's which were rumoured to be coming were just made up by AMD as they had someone leaking all their info out, so they just made those up to try to find out who it was.

I heard that the 1gb 2900 XT with GDDR4 was just for system integrators, so we'll just have to wait and see, and there is a 1gb XT already knocking about, but its just exactly the same as the 512mb XT, uses the same GDDR3 memory, as Gibbo was offered some to sell but he turned them down as there is just no point in them, exactly the same performance as the 512mb XT just an extra 512mb Ram, and a big price hike for it.
 
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God I sure hope ATI come up with something special in Jan / Feb with R650 / R700

Otherwise that will be a whole other gen they have effectively missed, and many who were waiting for R600 have just gone and bought G80s now....

They say Jan / Feb... They said that kind of thing about R600... So says the cynic inside me!
 
There is Ati 2900XT 1GB GDD4 cards for sale in Canada, they were actually released today 14th, for around $549/599 Canadian dollers. Loads of north American shops are selling them on-line, just search. and there is performance increase over the 512MB xt's but nothing major. A company called Diamond is releasing the GDDR4 cards clocked @ 825 / mem: 1100.
Also I have spoken to someone and he said they are coming to Europe in the next 10-15 days I'm not sure on the prices though, lets hope they are reasonable because i plan to invest in two for crossfire. guess2098 did some benches on a certain forum and the score was 21k in 3Dmarks 06, they were moderately overclocked 22+k is possible.

Maybe Gibbo was misinformed about them being only GDDR3 1GB rather then GDDR4 1GB because they are definitely out there and will come to Europe soon.

Want some links of above details PM me.
 
Jan/Feb is far too far off, they need something Nov/Xmas out and in mass stock levels too.

I think Nvidia will be even more deadlier cos there due October/November with there Next Gen.

Provided TF2/Crysis/UT3 and others are out it may just well be the perfect time to have an empty wallet.
 
Have to agree, i can't believe they are going to stick with a dearer GTS competitor till next Jan/Feb when Nvidia already have a much faster GTX out and an even faster Ultra out, and are also supposedly bringing out the G92 in October/November which is rumoured to be 1x teraflop, wtf are AMD thinking, they are going to ruin ATi. :(

That 1gb XT is a joke as well, why on earth would you buy one of those when you can get a GTX that just creams it for around the same price, i wish AMD had left ATi well alone, only bought them to save themselves, thank god Intel are going to step into the GPU market, as once AMD fall we'll still have some competition for Nvidia.
 
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LoadsaMoney said:
Have to agree, i can't believe they are going to stick with a dearer GTS competitor till next Jan/Feb when Nvidia already have a much faster GTX out and an even faster Ultra out, and are also supposedly bringing out the G92 in October/November which is rumoured to be 1x teraflop, wtf are AMD thinking, they are going to ruin ATi. :(

That 1gb XT is a joke as well, why on earth would you buy one of those when you can get a GTX that just creams it for around the same price, i wish AMD had left ATi well alone, only bought them to save themselves, thank god Intel are going to step into the GPU market, as once AMD fall we'll still have some competition for Nvidia.
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The 2900's are already falling massively in price, currently you can pick one up around 20 quid cheaper than the GTS
 
Tom|Nbk said:
The 2900's are already falling massively in price, currently you can pick one up around 20 quid cheaper than the GTS
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I can't see that helping them much as if you want faster your only choice is a GTX/Ultra, basically your only choice is Nvidia, i know ppl can say yeah the money's not in the high-end though so it doesn't really matter, but i think it does, remember when the high-end 8800's were launched, they were selling by the truckload, so id say there is quite a lot of money in the high-end, everyone was clamouring for them, even months after they were all out of stock everywhere as everyone was buying them up because AMD delayed the launch of the 2900 till May, they have lost out on an absolute shedload, and still are/will till next year.

The 2600's etc... are supposedly slower than the 8600's as well, doesn't look good at all for them, lets hope the cards they release next year are something special, and lets face it they will have to be as they are getting an absolute kicking at the moment, surely just having a GTS competitor till next year will be causing some serious damage for them.:(
 
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The money is in the mainstream though LoadsAMoney. As soon as AMD started selling CPUs to Dell, suddenly they had a massive shortage for months on end. AMD isn't anywhere near as big a seller as Intel @ Dell either.

How many GPUs do you think Dell sell alone? Let alone all the other OEMs.
 
Yeah the money's in the mainstream im not denying that, but theres also quite a lot in the high-end, must be judging by how well the 8800's have been selling, surely thats gota be some size chunk they are missing out on, and if the rumours are true about the 2600's not being a match for the 8600's then its definately not gona be good for em. :(
 
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The money is in the mainstream though LoadsAMoney. As soon as AMD started selling CPUs to Dell, suddenly they had a massive shortage for months on end. AMD isn't anywhere near as big a seller as Intel @ Dell either.

How many GPUs do you think Dell sell alone? Let alone all the other OEMs.
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Dell have already snapped up for the 2600's and the 2400's and that's where the money is, AMD will sell the 2400,2600 by the bucket load to the OEM's, they will be making a fortune out the 2000 series. AMD have all the OEM's atm :p
 
Doesn't seem that there will be a 2900xtx, more likely there will be a 2950xtx if they get the problems sorted.
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Dell have already snapped up for the 2600's and the 2400's and that's where the money is, AMD will sell the 2400,2600 by the bucket load to the OEM's, they will be making a fortune out the 2000 series. AMD have all the OEM's atm :p
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True but for money i don't think amd are doing too well, even after the few years that the pentium 4 was totally outclassed by amd offerings. I remember a statement saying that they've always been a company on the edge, not the edge of technology but more like the edge of being in business and not.

Thats one of the reason i dont like the fact amd bought ati, if amd sinks ati goes with them. :( Not saying that theyre gonna sink because of one dodgy launch but if it ever did hapen we effectively lose 2 companies.
 
Tom|Nbk said:
Dell have already snapped up for the 2600's and the 2400's and that's where the money is, AMD will sell the 2400,2600 by the bucket load to the OEM's, they will be making a fortune out the 2000 series. AMD have all the OEM's atm :p
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True, they snapped up all the 2900's, so hopefully they aint in to much trouble, i dont wanna see em go thats for sure.
 
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