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Audio issues since GPU upgrade

Evil-I

Evil-I

Evil-I

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Hi All,

Well bit the bullet and bought an RTX3090 for some ungodly amount of money to pair with my 5950x...

I've been trying to justify it to myself as a business expense...

Machines built for content creation, Premiere pro, After effects etc (the work bit) and a bit of gaming.

System is:
Gigabytes x570 auros master
Ryzen 9 5950x
128Gb 3600 RAM
1x500Gb Samsung 980pro NVME SSD
1 x 1Tb Samsung 980pro NVME SSD
1 x 1Tb Samsung 970evo NVME SSD
Asus RTX3090 (EK edition)
Superflower Leadex platinum 1000w PSU
All custom water-cooled

Only just received and installed the 3090 yesterday but getting some fairly annoying audio interference in the right channel that seems specific to graphics load... So in games when 3d loaded hard, tone even changes based on what the scenery is, it's a little like coil whine coming through the audio. Comes through both on headphones and speakers.

Also noticeable when doing video encoding / rendering in Premiere pro, after effects and media encoder.

I have been concerned it might be my power supply, it's a really good quality one, but probably more than 6 years old now. In theory the load shouldn't be anywhere near the 1000watts? No issue running a pair of heavily overclocked gtx 970's in the same rig prior to the 3090.

Any thoughts?

Thanks,

E-I
 
In addition, just noticed that i get white flashing on chrome window when i resize and noticeable buzz from card that happens at the same time.

Also ticking noise from card when running media encoder...
 
Ticking would suggest a fan is catching on something. You dont say which drivers you are using but try 460.79 I dont use 461.x as I get sound popping and wierd sound problems.
 
Yeah, not a fan issue. It's definitely coming from the GPU (Which is water-cooled, so no fans on it or near enough to mistake where noise is from...) and only happens under heavy load. It's sort of a pulsing buzz maybe rather than a tick? I'm on latest studio driver, 461.72. I'll try something else, but I'd be surprised if that were the issues as I don't use the sound from the gpu. It more seems to be that the GPU is causing interference and both has a buzz/ low coil whine which is transferred to the motherboard onboard audio (although only the right channel for some reason...). I'll try another driver to be sure.

Thanks for the response!

E-I
 
VonScar said:
Try a sound card? External. One with shielding.
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Yes, that is an option, but given this was all fine until the 3090, just seems a bit odd.

VincentHanna said:
What about using audio from the HDMI port?
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I don't use HDMI audio, I have a Senheisser headphones/ mic set and a pair of self powered Yamaha audio monitors. Both of which are analogue. So I guess unless I have an external soundcard taking a digital source (USB, HDMI, Optical etc..)

Sound issue aside, the noise from the card itself is a little worrying it's a bit more than simple coil whine, more coil buzz? Also weird I'm getting some visual glitches too with chrome. Although whilst typing this that's no longer happening, so maybe it is a driver thing?

Time for more testing!
 
Evil-I said:
Yes, that is an option, but given this was all fine until the 3090, just seems a bit odd.


I don't use HDMI audio, I have a Senheisser headphones/ mic set and a pair of self powered Yamaha audio monitors. Both of which are analogue. So I guess unless I have an external soundcard taking a digital source (USB, HDMI, Optical etc..)

Sound issue aside, the noise from the card itself is a little worrying it's a bit more than simple coil whine, more coil buzz? Also weird I'm getting some visual glitches too with chrome. Although whilst typing this that's no longer happening, so maybe it is a driver thing?

Time for more testing!
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The RTX 3090 is a power hungry beast, it sucks lots of power, from the motherboard 75 watts and that's not including the 2-3 8 pins from PSU. It is putting a demand on your system that few cards need.

Plus if you have onboard audio, no shielding to that power hungry GPU. It happened to me a long time back, I solved it by using a sound card. These days external dacs/soundcards seem popular.
 
I get the same issue (with worse hardware) in a game I run at a very high framerate since switching motherboard to one without a PCI slot (and hence need to use onboard audio). If you add a soundcard, which I expect is no issue for you from a budget perspective given your system specs, I expect this will go away.
 
I had that problem with a 3090 in my Aorus TRX40 Xtreme with a Threadripper 3960X. It was a PSU issue that got solved when I replaced my aging PSU with a Corsair AX 1600i. However, before going that route, I decide to install a Sound Blaster Z and that also solved the problem. In any case, with the new PSU, I get crystal clear sound with a 3070 and a 3090 plugged in the machine if I use the on-board audio. I decided to keep using the Sound Blaster, though, I like it more :).
 
Thanks all,

I do worry it could be the PSU but getting a decent replacement high wattage power supply is as difficult as all of the other components at the moment, that's going to have to wait for a while...

Decided to try an external DAC/ Headphone amp. if the sound stuff is over a meter away from the GPU surely that would solve it :-) Got an ifi Zen on the way.

Now all I have to do is work out why this GPU won't recognise my old 1440p DVI only second monitor.... Had a DP to DVI cable where it recognises it's there but won't activate/ bring it out of standby, have ordered an active dongle from DSP to DV-I that supposedly supports up to 4K and that's doing the same thing.... It's an old Hazro IPS, still works very well and don't really want to have to replace it after all the money I've already spent... Worked absolutely fine on my old GTX970...
 
Evil-I said:
Thanks all,

I do worry it could be the PSU but getting a decent replacement high wattage power supply is as difficult as all of the other components at the moment, that's going to have to wait for a while...

Decided to try an external DAC/ Headphone amp. if the sound stuff is over a meter away from the GPU surely that would solve it :) Got an ifi Zen on the way.

Now all I have to do is work out why this GPU won't recognise my old 1440p DVI only second monitor.... Had a DP to DVI cable where it recognises it's there but won't activate/ bring it out of standby, have ordered an active dongle from DSP to DV-I that supposedly supports up to 4K and that's doing the same thing.... It's an old Hazro IPS, still works very well and don't really want to have to replace it after all the money I've already spent... Worked absolutely fine on my old GTX970...
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If you google dp to dvi rtx cards many people have this issue, seems the fix for some was to buy a dp to hdmi then chain a hdmi to dvi, to get their monitor to work, seems they dropped dvi on the dp on rtx cards (even 2000 series rtx) from what i'm reading. Not sure 100% nvidia did that, but seems an issue for many and they state DVI on Dp was dropped..
 
Purgatory said:
If you google dp to dvi rtx cards many people have this issue, seems the fix for some was to buy a dp to hdmi then chain a hdmi to dvi, to get their monitor to work, seems they dropped dvi on the dp on rtx cards (even 2000 series rtx) from what i'm reading. Not sure 100% nvidia did that, but seems an issue for many and they state DVI on Dp was dropped..
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Thanks for info, yes i've been finding similar. I was hoping this supposedly active DSP dongle would be the fix, but obviously not.

This monitor is quite fussy, it won't work with various DVI cables as I think it needs a true DVI-D dual link as its 10 bit colour (and there's no ability to make it only 8 bit colour at the monitor end, as it doesn't even have an OSD and only 2 buttons for brightness and contrast) . I do have a free HDMI port on the 3090, is HDMI to DVI-D likely to be any better?

I have a horrible suspicion getting this to work given its 10bit colour is unlikely...
 
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