Australian "The Voice" referendum gets a solid no vote to allow further indigenous representations.

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Thread title amended as in all fairness I misrepresented the referendum's purpose.

Is Australia indicating it wants to return to a more right leaning governance? The acrimonious referendum, (aren't they all these days, losing is not seemingly taken with grace and fortitude any more), has resulted in a clear indication of the Oz's belief indigenous populations have more than enough say in what occurs in government without giving them a vote.

From the ruddy complexioned BBC buildings just now:


Australia has overwhelmingly rejected a plan to give greater rights to Indigenous people in a referendum.
All six states voted no to a proposal to change the constitution to recognise Indigenous citizens and create an advisory body to the government.
Prime Minister Anthony Albanese said defeat was hard: "When you aim high, sometimes you fall short. We understand and respect that we have."
Opposition leader Peter Dutton said the result was "good for our country".
The referendum, dubbed "The Voice", was Australia's first in more than a quarter of a century. With almost 70% of the vote counted, the "No" vote led "Yes" 60% to 40%.
Its rejection followed a fraught and often ill-tempered campaign.

Supporters said that entrenching the Indigenous peoples into the constitution would unite Australia and usher in a new era.
No leaders said that the idea was divisive, would create special "classes" of citizens where some were more equal than others, and the new advisory body would slow government decision-making.
They were criticised over their appeal to undecided voters with a "Don't know? Vote no" message, and accused of running a campaign based on misinformation about the effects of the plan.
The result leaves Mr Albanese searching for a way forward with his vision for the country, and a resurgent opposition keen to capitalise on its victory.
 
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There's a well documented trait amongst aboriginals, (and native American Indians) towards alcohol and drug abuse, leading to or associated with criminality. The same in Canada.

Given the trouble this leads to is it any great surprise the Australian public have no stomach for empowering them further? We and they can see what happened to South Africa when a restraining hand was removed from the indigenous population and they were left to moderate themselves, politically and socially. It went downhill rapidly to become financially and socially unstable.
 
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You genuinely dont think thats not related to their current social situation but its a "genetic" trait they just want to get drunk and do drugs and "kill each other"?
is the Chav the UK version?
is it not because they literally have nothing better to do and live on handouts and opt out of a "capitalist" for use of a better word society?
Its like complaining that the dog hasn't tidied up and made the beds while you were at work its just nonsense for a dog to follow the rules and ideals you think are correct.
All these groups are just less evolved than the white man?

I walk on eggshells with the current moderation team, so will have to take the fifth with regards to my opinion on genetics in this regard, I hope you understand?
 
Is it not their country?

Saying that in reply to a post stating the opposition leader Peter Dutton remarking that it's "good for our country" suggests you believe the aborigines have more of a right to claiming Australia as "their country" than do those who have been born there but have not got the same depth of heredity as the aborigines.

I find that surprising from you of all people, as one has to assume you feel the same way about, for example, multi generation English having a greater claim to being English and on England than the children of those more recently arrived and given British nationality.

I suspect it's an opinion commonly held, but less frequently publicly stated.
 
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I'm curious, when did the word "racist" become a thing, linguistically speaking? It's thrown around constantly these days, but I suspect it's a relatively very recent addition to English adjectives? Linguists, what's the answer please?
 
Speaking generally. The seemingly sad thing about modern youth is they see very few shades of grey. Whether that's because they have little concept of being told they are abjectly wrong or mistaken, with discipline to back it up, whether at home, at school, or even at university, (safe spaces...), accepting defeat or other opinions magnanimously seems to have gone out of the window, but I am absolutely certain the older generation are more nuanced and less likely to "go off on one", cry foul or just cry if their opinion or vote is thwarted.

We'll find out when Labour get in I guess.
 

I would have thought SC and graduates would have loved such a regime, imagine how Brexit, the vote for Trump, "The Voice" and all the other votes perpetuated by the ignorant blah blah might otherwise have transpired? Getting `em to cough up the readies is another matter of course... ;) Eradicate the thick, pure genius indeed?
 
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