AVG no longer free?

Burnsy2023 · 26 Oct 2009 at 22:52

Rainmaker said:
MSE is great until it happily lets known trojans through to your machine, while MS email you back to say if you'd PAID them for a different AV product, the virus would have been caught as they've known about it since June 2009.

What?

Ms don't even have a paid home AV product.

Rainmaker · 26 Oct 2009 at 22:55

Burnsy2023 said:
What?

Ms don't even have a paid home AV product.

I was paraphrasing, and admittedly dramatising, a little. But I've posted the email on here already. MSE allowed through a well known trojan. I updated my MSE definitions and re-scanned it, but it still came up as non-malicious. I duly submitted the sample to MS direct, and received a reply stating:

MS said:
The Microsoft Malware Protection Center (MMPC) has investigated the following file(s) which we received on 10/22/2009 3:03:09 AM Pacific Time.
If you were to scan the files you submitted using Microsoft's Forefront Client Security product, you would see relevant detection information similar to what is displayed below.
The detection results for the file(s) in your submission are as follows:

Submitted Files
=============================================
DHL_print_label_24d5f.exe [TrojanDownloader:Win32/Bredolab.X]

So basically, MSE didn't detect a trojan MS have held in their databases since June 2009. But if I were to scan with Forefront, it'd be detected. That's a fat lot of use for all those noobs out there who are now potentially running infected "clean" machines thanks to MSE. Or am I missing something?

EDIT: What I'm trying to say is (1) MSE's detection fails, and (2) what's the point in that ineffectual and useless reply? They may as well have said "Yep, MSE would have allowed your machine to become infected had you not known better. But hey, Avira would have detected it...". Since Forefront is paid-for and not for home use, and I was using (and submitting on behalf of) MSE, it was a pretty silly response, no?

Tute · 26 Oct 2009 at 22:58

MSSE is a brilliant AV IMO.

Rainmaker · 26 Oct 2009 at 22:59

Tute said:
MSSE is a brilliant AV IMO.

Yup, I loved the app itself. But as I said, what's the point in an AV that happily lets through months-old trojans? You might as well not bother having it installed.

Odin · 26 Oct 2009 at 23:06

from my own experience with avg id say its pretty substandard in terms of the protection it says it offers.

I wouldnt recommend it to anyone myself

I bought the full internet security suite.

Blackbadger · 26 Oct 2009 at 23:13

MSE is great for being free and easy to install /update etc.
It's terrible for being a huge resource hog with both ram and cpu. Plus as others have stated it's pretty poor at actually doing it's job.

It's certainly better than having no anti virus, but it no way compares to standard paid for AV's, which isn't a surprise.

buy_my_cookies · 26 Oct 2009 at 23:28

installed mse after reading this thread to see what it was like, i like it even simple enuf for me to use

not sure if i soly rely on it tho

ShakenNstirred · 27 Oct 2009 at 16:57

Blackbadger said:
MSE is great for being free and easy to install /update etc.
It's terrible for being a huge resource hog with both ram and cpu. Plus as others have stated it's pretty poor at actually doing it's job.

It's certainly better than having no anti virus, but it no way compares to standard paid for AV's, which isn't a surprise.

what os u running it on?
im running on 7 and it uses 60mb ram and the cpu is a 2% with everything i have running