B450 tomahawk max work with this?.

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Sgt Tackleberry

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Hi guy.

Just after some advice please. I'm looking at picking up this motherboard within the next few days. I will be pairing it with 3700x/3800x/3900x, I just haven't made up my mind what CPU I'm getting yet. So my question is, will I have to flash/update the bios to get it to work with either one of them CPU?.

Thanks
 
It's perfectly good for 8 cores.
With 12 core 3900X fully loaded it would start needing some case cooling to stay at optimal temps.
Those start simply pushing board's CPU VRM toward upper end of its "comfort zone" and heat output starts increasing sharply.

MSI's B450 Max boards have always come with Zen2 compatible BIOS, because those very specially released updated versions of boards.
 
EsaT said:
It's perfectly good for 8 cores.
With 12 core 3900X fully loaded it would start needing some case cooling to stay at optimal temps.
Those start simply pushing board's CPU VRM toward upper end of its "comfort zone" and heat output starts increasing sharply.

MSI's B450 Max boards have always come with Zen2 compatible BIOS, because those very specially released updated versions of boards.
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I have lian li o11 dynamic case with 6 fans in and AIO watercooling for the CPU so temps shouldn't be an issue.

So I don't need to flash/update the bios then?
 
Question isn't about CPU temps, but motherboard's CPU VRM temps.
And with that AIO likely dumping heat to be circulated through whole case, along with graphics card likely dumping its heat inside case that can cause increased ambient temperature for VRM.
(increasing VRM temperature)
Also AIOs usually have less air movement around CPU area than heatpipe coolers.
 
Sgt Tackleberry said:
Ok if not what about these.
Msi x570 gaming pro WiFi?
Msi x570 gaming plus?
Msi x570 gaming edge wfi?
Msi x570 a pro?
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All those boards would do worse on the Vrm temps than the tomahawk, if you want to go msi and x570 I would recomend the msi x570 unify, that said I still think the tomahawk would be fine and I'm planning to drop a 4900x into mine later this year when there released.
 
Joxeon said:
All those boards would do worse on the Vrm temps than the tomahawk, if you want to go msi and x570 I would recomend the msi x570 unify, that said I still think the tomahawk would be fine and I'm planning to drop a 4900x into mine later this year when there released.
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I'm being such a novice now but what's the concern with the Vram?. I'm not overclocking the CPU or anything like that, I just want to drop the CPU in and go. It will be mainly gaming that's all. I'm thinkg the 3700x would be the best approach on this? I can afford the 3900x but what's I've been reading it doesn't benefit for gaming much.

All I wanted to know is do I have the update the bios out of the box for the 3x cpu on the Tomahawk max.
 
Sgt Tackleberry said:
All I wanted to know is do I have the update the bios out of the box for the 3x cpu on the Tomahawk max.
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No

But if you choose a x570 go Gigabyte for the bios support.

And he meant the VRM on the motherboard, the voltage regulation modules, they control how much power to send and sustain to the cpu and they get hot, very hot
 
Sgt Tackleberry said:
I'm being such a novice now but what's the concern with the Vram?. I'm not overclocking the CPU or anything like that, I just want to drop the CPU in and go. It will be mainly gaming that's all. I'm thinkg the 3700x would be the best approach on this? I can afford the 3900x but what's I've been reading it doesn't benefit for gaming much.

All I wanted to know is do I have the update the bios out of the box for the 3x cpu on the Tomahawk max.
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The VRMs control the flow of power to the CPU, the more powerful CPU you have then the more power that flows through them and this causes heat, hence why motherboards come with heatsyncs because the VRMs are the main point of failure on a motherboard and if they do fail then They can take the CPU with it aswell.

The good news is the tomahawk comes with a good Vrm and an excellent heatsync, one of the very best on a b450 board and better than even some x570s which is why it's so often recommended. It was re-released around late July early August as the tomahawk MAX with the main difference being the bios chip was upgraded to 32mb from the originally tomahawks 16mb as msi was struggling to fit all the bios information on the 16mb chip so had to cut some features, this meant the tomahawk max with its 32mb bios chip would come ryzen 3000 ready out of the box and have the full msi bios features.
 
Sgt Tackleberry said:
I'm being such a novice now but what's the concern with the Vram?. I'm not overclocking the CPU or anything like that, I just want to drop the CPU in and go. It will be mainly gaming that's all. I'm thinkg the 3700x would be the best approach on this? I can afford the 3900x but what's I've been reading it doesn't benefit for gaming much.

All I wanted to know is do I have the update the bios out of the box for the 3x cpu on the Tomahawk max.
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Tomahawk max has fairly new bios installed already no need to update it prior to instalation. When you get it all up and running and run into small issues then you can install latest bios. Its easy through M flash option in bios. To do it you will need usb stick 2 -16gb formatted to fat/fat32 . As far i know other usb sticks arent recognised by MSI bios
 
Have a fun with it. I strongly suggest test your build first outside the case with minimum components plugged into MB to prevent any hassle. Ryzen builds are finicky and every build is unique.
 
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Ico said:
Have a fun with it. I strongly suggest test your build first outside the case with minimum components plugged into MB to prevent any hassle. Ryzen builds are finicky and every build is unique.
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I think that's a bit over bit over the top.
 
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