Backslash, where is it?

Minibiker · 19 Jul 2022 at 09:07

Hi all

So I'm learning python and getting to grips with Variables, functions etc but one thing I'm not able to do is the \n command for new line....

I can't find Backslash on my keyboard anywhere and tried all the recommendations on Google but nothing seems to work :cry:

Is there an alternative command or does anyone know where my \ is hiding please

MissChief · 19 Jul 2022 at 09:11

On a UK ISO layout it’s to the left of Z

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UnknownDonut · 19 Jul 2022 at 09:25

Think the only other way in python to put strings on a new line without using \n is to do a separate Print() for each line.

print ('Line 1')
print ('Line 2')

as appose to print ('Line 1 \nLine2')

Semple · 19 Jul 2022 at 09:45

Were you using the onscreen keyboard for inserting those backslashes.

arknor · 19 Jul 2022 at 10:14

seems to be between left shift and Z, directly above the windows key
\\\\\\\\

Have you one of those weird 60% keyboards or something rather thana full size

Armageus · 19 Jul 2022 at 10:16

@Minibiker - a picture of your actual keyboard, and what Windows keyboard layout you are using may be helpful

Minibiker · 19 Jul 2022 at 11:26

arknor said:
seems to be between left shift and Z, directly above the windows key
\\\\\\\\

Have you one of those weird 60% keyboards or something rather thana full size

Nooooo full size one bud, will get the missus to try that left shift and Z and let me know as I'm at work... Hopefully it's alright.

Armageus said:
@Minibiker - a picture of your actual keyboard, and what Windows keyboard layout you are using may be helpful

I will get one uploaded later if the above doesn't work bud, it's an old keyboard but full size, I don't even know the model I got it for £10 off a friend :cry:

Minibiker · 19 Jul 2022 at 11:29

UnknownDonut said:
Think the only other way in python to put strings on a new line without using \n is to do a separate Print() for each line.

print ('Line 1')
print ('Line 2')

as appose to print ('Line 1 \nLine2')

Basically what I'm trying to do is create a 'shop keeper' and when it offers the products I want them to move to the next line

Print ("what would you like from our menu? \n" + menu)

Something like that

Semple said:
Were you using the onscreen keyboard for inserting those backslashes.

No all on keyboard, didn't know there was a onscreen keyboard

Armageus · 19 Jul 2022 at 11:31

Minibiker said:
Nooooo full size one bud, will get the missus to try that left shift and Z and let me know as I'm at work... Hopefully it's alright.

I will get one uploaded later if the above doesn't work bud, it's an old keyboard but full size, I don't even know the model I got it for £10 off a friend

It largely depends on whether it's an ISO or ANSI keyboard, and whether the Windows keymap is set to match the printed legends e.g. UK vs US.

If it's UK ISO (Enter key is like an L shape tetris piece) - it "should" be between left shift and Z.
If it's UK ANSI (Enter key is straight), then it should be between backspace and Enter

UnknownDonut · 19 Jul 2022 at 16:24

Minibiker said:
Basically what I'm trying to do is create a 'shop keeper' and when it offers the products I want them to move to the next line

Print ("what would you like from our menu?" + menu)

Something like that

No all on keyboard, didn't know there was a onscreen keyboard

menu = {'Apple':1.99,'Beer':3.99,'Bread':0.50}
print('What would you like from our menu ?\n',(menu))

or like this ?

print('What would you like from our menu ?')
print(menu)

I'm no python guru, currently learning this myself

Minibiker · 19 Jul 2022 at 18:31

UnknownDonut said:
menu = {'Apple':1.99,'Beer':3.99,'Bread':0.50}
print('What would you like from our menu ?\n',(menu))

or like this ?

print('What would you like from our menu ?')
print(menu)

I'm no python guru, currently learning this myself

Basically like your first print function bud, instead of () around the menu I'd use + menu.... Its known as a concatenate, to add multiple strings together

Moeks · 20 Jul 2022 at 23:33

Just so happens I have both ISO and ANSI layout boards on my desk, so I can show you. A very quick way to test that you have the correct keymap set for your board layout is to press shift+3 if you get a # symbol it's ANSI if you get a £ it's ISO
Photo Blackslash \ is circled on each board and labelled.

Sorry about all the dust on the lower one, didn't realise it was so bad until I looked at the photo, I took all the keycaps off and cleaned it only about a month ago.

Minibiker · 21 Jul 2022 at 16:25

Not the best quality pic for you all to have a look at but this is the keyboard I'm using for now, it's an old model but I can only see one backslash above tab but it doesn't work no matter what I pair with it (Shift, ALT etc)

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Armageus · 21 Jul 2022 at 16:35

What keyboard layout does Windows say you are using? What happens if you press Shift+3 for a pound sign etc.

Easy but not correct fix, would be to download Powertoys and use the Remap keys feature:

Release Release v0.60.1 · microsoft/PowerToys

This is a patch release to fix issues in v0.60.0 to fix a few bugs we deemed important for stability based on incoming rates. See v0.60.0 for full release notes. #19253 - Updated the Microsoft St...

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MissChief · 21 Jul 2022 at 17:59

Minibiker said:
Not the best quality pic for you all to have a look at but this is the keyboard I'm using for now, it's an old model but I can only see one backslash above tab but it doesn't work no matter what I pair with it (Shift, ALT etc)

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Try the FN key on the bottom row on the right hand side?

Also that KB is all sorts of weird. UK layout but no £ on 3, no “ on 2, I’d just buy a new KB!

Minibiker · 21 Jul 2022 at 19:04

MissChief said:
Try the FN key on the bottom row on the right hand side?

Also that KB is all sorts of weird. UK layout but no £ on 3, no “ on 2, I’d just buy a new KB!

Will give that ago thank you... Yeah I will be buying a new one next Monday (payday) this is a piece of **** :cry:

Moeks · 22 Jul 2022 at 18:48

That's a really odd keyboard, it is an ISO layout, you have the large enter key but you also have 2 full length shift keys and no pound symbol on the 3 key, so it's not a UK layout ISO either ...weird.