Baking bread - what am I doing wrong?

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For the past two weekends I've embarked upon baking my own bread - something I've never really done before and thought it was about time to get to grips with, so I read a whole bunch of recipes and worked out which was the one for me.

But while results have been extremely tasty and the bread has a fantastic texture and spring to it, I'm not completely satisfied with the shape and the crust on the loaves I've baked - thus I'm wondering where I'm going wrong.

The recipe I'm following is as follows.

500g of strong white bread flour.
10g of fast-acting yeast.
10g of sea salt.
30g of softened butter.
330ml of room-temperature water.

I add just enough water to bring everything together in the bowl then tip out onto a lightly-oiled surface and knead the dough until smooth and stretchy. This is then rested in a lightly-oiled bowl, covered with a tea towel, and left for around 80-minutes until it's at least doubled in size - usually I start working with it when the dough has risen to the height of the bowl.

The dough is then tipped out onto a lightly-floured worktop and knocked back, then formed into a cob shape and placed on a tray lined with baking paper and left to rest until doubled in size.

And it's at this point where things start to go a bit weird.

While the dough forms into a neat little ball and seems to be holding its shape well, over the course of the second prove it spreads out more than up and when baked I end up with a cob that is far wider than it is tall.

This confuses me greatly - is my dough too wet? Have I under-kneaded it? Over-kneaded? Something else?!

Anyway, the dough is then baked in a 210° oven for around 30-minutes and I put a baking tray in the bottom and and fill it with water to create steam. But while this gives me a nice pliable crust, it's never quite as 'rustic' as I'd like it to be. And when I've tried baking without the water in there, the crust is more crunchy but still very, very thin.

Is the water a good idea? Am I using too much or too little? Should I be spraying water onto the bread itself before baking? Is the oven at the right temperature?

I can't overemphasise how much enjoyment making my own bread has brought me in such a short space of time, but while it tastes fantastic I'm really wanting to nail the technique before moving on to other types of loaves.

Any advice or assistance will be gratefully received!

PS. Apologies for lack of photographical evidence of the results - will rectify that this weekend if it helps.
 
How old is your flour?
Brand new stuff and kept in sealed containers.

I'm almost certain you shouldn't be spraying water on the bread though - so I wouldn't jump into experimenting with that.
IIRC it's a Baker Brothers thing, but I've heard it from other sources as well for successful crust-making, although I don't know what it's supposed to do!

I guess the evaporation of the water would probably help to dissolve the sugars in the dough and thus make it even crustier?

Is your baking tray full of boiling hot water rather than cold? From memory you really just want the steam nearer the start of the baking rather than the end.
It's left in to heat up as the oven does and then water straight from a boiled kettle goes in.

I'm wondering if the baking sheet I'm using for the bread is too large and the steam isn't able to flow freely around the oven.

Have you checked out the baking thread? BigBoy posted some guides in there a while back which were extremely useful
Ah-ha! Thought there was something like that but couldn't find it for looking.

Thank you, kind sir!
 
Had another bash at baking a white cob last night (third time lucky and all that) and am much happier with the results, although somewhat predictably I can't really work out what's made the difference as I changed quite a lot of things.

This time round the recipe was adjusted to 400g of flour, with the other ingredients reduced accordingly, and I felt I used only just enough water to get everything bound together in the bowl, although it was still virtually all of the liquid I had in the jug.

Proving times were much the same (90-mins / 60-mins) but I used a different style of baking sheet, baked the bread on the very bottom rack of the oven instead of the one above it and made sure the oven was completely up to temperature with the tray of water steaming away nicely before putting the bread in.

After 38-minutes of cooking at 210ºC, followed by cooling it overnight (I finished baking around 1:30 in the morning...) I was left with this:

cob.jpg


And sliced open, the crumb looks like this:

sliced.jpg


Very, very tasty and a much more appealing shape with a thicker crust. Now I just need to work out how to do it again...
 
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