Bank refusing to do a bank transfer for my elderly mother, are they being over zealous?

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Hi, vent time (sorry in advance)

My mum is in the process of buying a static caravan for £10k on a well presented caravan park on the North Wales coast. She's seen it, been inside it, met the caravan owner, the sale is being handled by the site owner as per the rules of the site, she has met the site owner about the sale, been inside the office for the site.

The owner gave my mum the businesse's banking details to make payment, after which the necessary process of safety checks, key transfers, paperwork can be done.

As mentioned she has seen the caravan, been inside it, met the owner and site owner, in the site's premises. She is happy to make payment now and then go to sort out the paperwork, key transfer, etc after the safety checks are done by the sites caretaker. If she makes payment now all of these things will be done by the time she travels to the site to holiday in her new caravan.

She rings Barclays to make a bank transfer over the phone, gets put through to the fraud team, a million questions ensue including asking my mum for her national insurance number (!), she told him several times she had seen the caravan met the owner met the site owner and was happy with the process. The fraud team person would not transfer the money, says my mum has got to be there with the owner and site owner ready to "collect" the "camper van" (told him repeatedly it was a static caravan) or else they might drive off after payment has been made (how do you drive off in a static campervan?).

Note this is not a bank transfer to a private person selling something my mum has never seen, this is a bank transfer to a business and she has seen the caravan and we have confirmed the site is legit (there's 150 caravans on there), the site has many google reviews going back years none look fake and all are positive. She even went into a Barclays main branch today to attempt the transfer, they wouldn't have it.

My mum can't spend her money! I transfered £15k to a reputable business for a motorbike in 2023 for a bike I had never even seen and was delivered to me no problem a week later. I was asked no questions. The caravan site owner has never encountered anything like this she said.

I honestly believe my mum is being treated this way because she is elderly and doesn't do online banking etc. She got upset over the whole thing, £10k is a lot of money to her and what should be a very happy time has been a miserable few days.

Rant over.
 
Would it not be possible for her to transfer the money over to you or a family member so your able to do it (assuming you aren't with Barclays) or is that a no no?
She would have to go into the bank and draw the money out and give it to me, she doesn't do banking apps etc. If she has the cash she may as well pay them with cash which might end up happpening.
 
As much as it's frustrating, take a step back and consider whether you'd rather be posting "Damn Barclay's are making it hard for my elderly mother to send someone £10,000 to buy a caravan before any paperwork has been done" or "Damn, my mother just got conned out of £10,000 trying to buy a caravan with no paperwork and Barclay's didn't even try to stop her".

I would also be wholly unsurprised if your mother isn't making it sound like the most legit deal in history if there's mention of sorting out paperwork and safety checks AFTER paying for the caravan. Payment upfront from an elderly person with no paperwork in place is probably setting off every fraud alarm bell they have.

Perhaps you'll need to visit a branch with her?
She went into the main branch near the city where we live and they won't change their stance. I can see what you mean but as I mentioned I bought a motorbike unseen (my mum has at least seen the caravan and has been on the business premises with the business owner) for £15k with nothing like this happening.
 
Why would she make payment before any paperwork work is sorted? Makes no sense and no wonder the fraud time are not having it as it just screams of scam.
I bought a motorbike for £15k in a distance sale as have many other people who have bought vehicles.
 
Thanks for the answers all sorry I am not replying to everyone. So the majority think the bank are right? It perplexes me how just because it is an elderly person (with all their marbles, she is very careful on what she spends on) is treated differently to me who was able to buy a vehicle having not seen it not seen the business not spoken to the owner in person and was paying £15k. Is it fair to judge all old people the same because some aren't able to to conduct their financial affairs? Surely they can work out when they are speaking to someone if they are able to handle themselves or not? Plus I spoke to the fraud team person and I'm not elderly (not far off though :( :D) and explained everything.
 
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OK OK guys I do see the points! 1 thing that I sticks with me though is that this thread wouldn't have happened had she not been 76. But yes I see your points, the wrong ending would be terrible for sure! I hope to update this post in a few days to say I was right all along it wasn't a scam :D
 
Thanks for the replies everyone I have read them all even if I haven't directly replied.

So my mum went to the caravan park again a couple of days ago, met 1 of the owners in the site office and did the bank transfer, got keys to the caravan (they were the keys because she used them to enter the caravan) but no paperwork yet. A mother/brother/sister own the park, my mum was dealt with by the brother who told my mum it was his sister who does the paperwork but she's not on the site until next week.

My mum text the sister to confirm the money was in the account which she confirmed. So yeh no paperwork at the moment but have the keys and a text confirmation they have the money. Hope it's not a scam, I don't think it is.
 
They couldn't have the paperwork ready by now but you originally tried to buy it on weds?

would you buy a car without the paperwork because someone has the key? you probably should have paid like a 10% deposit or nothing and the rest when you can get the paperwork.

you even get a receipt or just the text confirmation?
good luck though
My mum just got a text confirmation the money has been received in their business account and the keys as mentioned. Yep I know a receipt would have taken all of 10 mins to do and I would have felt much better, but it was my mums decision ultimately.
 
sounds like you've been on the site enough that it's probably legit so I wouldn't worry too much


yea that's true if there's nothing in writing, that was just the non refundable deposit :cry: or they deduct processing fees from the refund



The site must have reviews on google though? if there all good It'll likely be legit
Yeh they have about 50 google reviews going back several years all very good apart from a couple complaining they don't allow dogs on there.
 
What kind of caravan site bans dags xD
I know, it's a major negative. My mum doesn't have a dog but I do and it means I couldn't take her with me to visit my mum while she's at the site, almost certainly will stop me going to the caravan myself for a day or 2 because I don't like being without my dog. Apparently the ban came about because a young child got a nasty bite from a dog while on the site and the owners said nope to any future dogs.
 
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