Barn conversions

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Has anyone done one of these? Currently at a very early stage but an opportunity has presented itself to acquire a large plot of land with an existing stone barn.

It would need a substantial amount of work doing. I think we would go down the formal planning permission route rather than the conversion option. I'm interested in your stories/experiences.
 
Has anyone done one of these? Currently at a very early stage but an opportunity has presented itself to acquire a large plot of land with an existing stone barn.

It would need a substantial amount of work doing. I think we would go down the formal planning permission route rather than the conversion option. I'm interested in your stories/experiences.

Do you have an option in which route you can go down? A Barn is an agricultural building. If you want to make it a livable space then the only option is a 'conversion'.
 
Do you have an option in which route you can go down? A Barn is an agricultural building. If you want to make it a livable space then the only option is a 'conversion'.

Sorry, I was talking about the option you have to apply for a class Q conversion rather than going down the planning permission route.
 
This has been my life for getting onto a couple of years now. Subsequent planning for the conversion works post the establishment of C3 via Class Q has been a long process due to a lot of local opposition.

With that in mind, the way that ours got over the line was via the class Q change of use (In our case from B8 Agricultural storage). Based on this experience i would absolutely certainly establish the use class using class Q if you can meet the tests to satisfy this. As you surely know, this is an extension of permitted development, and if you do meet the tests then you will receive acceptance via prior approval which will set the principle of residential dwellinghouse use (importantly including the suitability of the building to be converted, case law in place which tested this, an open metal barn was the case and was rejected as not being suitable for conversion without major works requiring planning permission).

The entire application for ours was underpinned by the changed use class being established, and thus it is inevitable that the building will be being converted to a dwellinghouse. At this point the planning process for the conversion works themselves centred over mitigation to the local environment, rather than the principle as to whether a dwellinghouse may be established in the location.

Straight planning for a change of use and development will surely be flat out refused? I don't know about the location in question here, but if the use class has never been C3, and this building is in open countryside, then there seems to me to be very little chance that you would ever change the use via planning permission....
 
This has been my life for getting onto a couple of years now. Subsequent planning for the conversion works post the establishment of C3 via Class Q has been a long process due to a lot of local opposition.

With that in mind, the way that ours got over the line was via the class Q change of use (In our case from B8 Agricultural storage). Based on this experience i would absolutely certainly establish the use class using class Q if you can meet the tests to satisfy this. As you surely know, this is an extension of permitted development, and if you do meet the tests then you will receive acceptance via prior approval which will set the principle of residential dwellinghouse use (importantly including the suitability of the building to be converted, case law in place which tested this, an open metal barn was the case and was rejected as not being suitable for conversion without major works requiring planning permission).

The entire application for ours was underpinned by the changed use class being established, and thus it is inevitable that the building will be being converted to a dwellinghouse. At this point the planning process for the conversion works themselves centred over mitigation to the local environment, rather than the principle as to whether a dwellinghouse may be established in the location.

Straight planning for a change of use and development will surely be flat out refused? I don't know about the location in question here, but if the use class has never been C3, and this building is in open countryside, then there seems to me to be very little chance that you would ever change the use via planning permission....

why did the locals oppose? Barns are usually fairly tucked away affairs and their conversion would have little impact on surrounding owners - case by case basis of course
 
Very much a case by case basis on that one, and actually the nature of barns is the opposite to your thoughts ime, people are very bothered about development in unspoilt countryside :) In our case, a hamlet, a case of simply not wanting additional development to an otherwise very quiet place.
 
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