BBC Breakfast in blatant mysogyny shocker

[dowie]

http://www.theguardian.com/media/20...st-countryfile-louise-minchin-sofa-dan-walker

Miriam O’Reilly has blamed “deep-rooted misogyny in newsrooms” for the way male presenters are nearly always seated in the position considered most senior on the left.

Her comments follow the row over the BBC’s decision to put a younger, less experienced man on the left-hand side of Louise Minchin on the BBC Breakfast sofa. The left-hand slot, previously filled by veteran presenter Bill Turnbull, is typically known as “presenter one” by TV producers and is often filled by the most senior member of a presenting duo.

Yup, someone is kicking up a fuss over which side of the sofa a male and female presenter sit. I think this ranks up there with micro-aggressions, the article doesn't provide much in the way of argument re: why this is the 'senior' position. At face value it seems more like this is often the default 'male' position which isn't necessarily equivalent to claiming it is the 'senior' one. But it does seem like we're going to see more complains about things like this, once real issues surrounding sexism, racism and other forms of bigotry have been dealt with then people seem to have to scrape the barrel and find much more trivial issues or even just make up things that aren't really issues and complain about them.

 

[Tefal]

if i was the male reporter id make a big song and dance on air of offering to switchplaces.

edit:

Minchin, who has been on BBC Breakfast for 10 years, is understood to have wanted to sit on the left of her new co-host Dan Walker, on the show’s red sofa after Turnbull left. However, producers decided it did not work visually, partly because of Walker’s height.

actually that has a point it looks weird with the tall person on the right.

can a photoshop type flip the image for us to see how it would look?

It also pointed out that BBC Breakfast’s main presenters include three women and one man.

 

[fish_dan]

misogyny: dislike of, contempt for, or ingrained prejudice against women.

Women are therefore disliked by the BBC for where they sit on the soda. No wonder no one takes these fanatics seriously...

 

[Tuppy_Glossop]

Surely it is more a question of televisual continuity ? Certain sections of viewers are confused when things change for no obvious reason and it can lead to negative opinions. A similar case is if someone on-screen exits to the right of screen then people are weirded out if they return to the same scene from the opposite side, implying some kind of wrap-around.

 

[kaffe]

Okay okay okay as a person who really doesn't like discrimination in any of its faces, this is going a little too far. If anything it makes a joke of the feminist movement and is counterproductive because people will only see it as a joke!

 

[MookJong]

Wait until Dec hears about this....

 

[Jamesyboyjim]

Okay okay okay as a person who really doesn't like discrimination in any of its faces, this is going a little too far. If anything it makes a joke of the feminist movement and is counterproductive because people will only see it as a joke!

feminism has been a joke for a long time now. I'm not talking about equal rights for women, I think that's a great thing, but this modern 'feminazism' is truly ridiculous.

 

[dowie]

Wait until Dec hears about this....

 

[Freakbro]

I think I'd complain more that the new guy is a bit of a prat...

Wait until Dec hears about this....

Very good

 

[dowie]

actually that has a point it looks weird with the tall person on the right.

yup maybe, it also does seem quite common to have the male on the right and female on the left so perhaps useful for continuity - this doesn't necessarily equate to seniority

and the 'presenter one', 'presenter two' thing they've mentioned... or if you had more presenters and you were going to number them from left to right

well 1, 2, 3 etc. would be logical

not 2, 1

 

[kaffe]

feminism has been a joke for a long time now. I'm not talking about equal rights for women, I think that's a great thing, but this modern 'feminazism' is truly ridiculous.

"Feminazism" is not feminism.

 

[subbytna]

Professional "I'm offended by"-ers are out in force at the Beeb. Ridiculous.

 

[Woden]

Wait until Dec hears about this....

It doesn't count for PJ and Duncan. No one knows which is which anyway.

 

[fish_dan]

I Agree with James, sadly its always the most extreme that ruin it for the rest...

 

[Terminal_Boy]

Professional "I'm offended by"-ers are out in force at the Beeb. Ridiculous.

It's a shame they weren't offended enough by Jimmy Saville to ever speak out, isn't it?

 

[Jamesyboyjim]

"Feminazism" is not feminism.

sadly, the lines are becoming blurred, more and more people are branding the crazies as feminists.

 

[platypus]

I think Miriam O’Reilly needs to get out more.

 

[UTmaniac]

I don't car about their seating arrangements, I want big Velcro numbers on the front of each presenter, identifying their hierarchy.

 

[Tunney]

But it does seem like we're going to see more complains about things like this, once real issues surrounding sexism, racism and other forms of bigotry have been dealt with

Newsflash: white male thinks that all real issues around sexism and racism have been solved.

 

[kaffe]

sadly, the lines are becoming blurred, more and more people are branding the crazies as feminists.

It's true and it makes me sad. There have been times where I have call out blatant sexism and have been labeled "feminazi"
I don't mind a bit of "banter" (eg shouldn't you be in the kitchen) but "women are inferior to men" kinda grinds on me.