BBC Dramas on Netflix and Prime

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I don't always bother with a TV license in my London flat, but I'm not there at the mo so decided I'd take a look at some stuff on iplayer - few BBC dramas I figured I might like to catch up on...

I'd heard good things about McMafia...

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Oh no...

Bodyguard is also decent:

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Oh no...

Never mind - it seems the BBC can't offer these BBC dramas to licence payers but Netflix has them available....

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Along similar lines of decent BBC shows.

Netflix also seems to have the BBC detective mini series Collateral (stars Carey Mulligan - well worth watching!).

Amazon Prime has all the seasons of Line of Duty (fortunately the BBC did recently re-release those onto iplayer)

BBC's The Night Manager - I remember watching that on Amazon Prime - sure enough, still on Amazon, not on iplayer.

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So how about a thread for good BBC dramas - especially those available on Netflix/Amazon Prime...
 
I think the above is due the rights management that's handled by a separate bit of the BBC called BBC global or some such. They're a commercial business that's sells rights to BBC shows worldwide - I think they also fund some productions
 
Wolf Hall on now ? >> bodyguard,Mcmafia,collateral,line of duty .... Night Managers the only good one in the list
...so much of the bbc stuff, like (returning) Eve too, is made/commisioned for the global netflix demographic.
 
jpaul said:
Wolf Hall on now ? >> bodyguard,Mcmafia,collateral,line of duty .... Night Managers the only good one in the list
...so much of the bbc stuff, like (returning) Eve too, is made/commisioned for the global netflix demographic.
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Wolf Hall is a rather different genre! Bit of a bold claim to dismiss all those and state Night Manager is the only good one too... AFAIK Line of Duty is pretty well received generally (despite some slightly ridiculous/OTT moments). I've only just started watching McMafia so will reserve judgement on that one but it seems OK so far.
 
jpaul said:
bodyguard,Mcmafia,collateral,line of duty
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or .. put it another way ... series, of that gendre, I will be lining up before I get to those
suburra, romanzo criminale (seen gomorrah)
spiral last series (seen braquo brilliant)
Mr Avila last series
.. yes there is a trend, foreign/subtitled dramas.
 
Bodyguard - Producer - World Productions, not the BBC
McMafia - Producer - Cuba Pictures, not the BBC
The Night Manager - Producer - The Ink Factory, BBC, Demarest Films, AMG.. ok you got me, 1/4 the BBC

OP doesn't understand digital rights management. End.
 
OP didn’t make claims about digital rights management...

The thread is about good BBC content on Netflix, Amazon.
 
dowie said:
OP didn’t make claims about digital rights management...
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But you kinda did.
dowie said:
Never mind - it seems the BBC can't offer these BBC dramas to licence payers but Netflix has them available....
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It's more about licensing and distribution deals, DRM is anti-piracy but whatever :o

The BBC continue to drop the ball with iPlayer, it seems they can't afford to buy bigger servers to store their content on lol. So it all disappears after a while and they instead ink deals with other platforms (such as Netflix) to distribute their shows. It makes perfect business sense, why have have McMafia sitting on your servers forever and ever - actually costing you money to serve viewers - whereas you could flog it to Netflix and make a small additional profit instead. That's my simplistic way of understanding it. It's a shame though.

And in not paying your licence fee you're just exacerbating the problem by not giving the BBC the 'profit' they deserve for these shows. Any wonder people keep wondering if they'd ditch the licence fee and instead leverage an 'iPlayer fee'.
 
isn't the production point, that the BBC can't afford to commission, and take the business risk, of creating the material exclusively ....and then licensing it to distributors.

Does the Attenborough stuff fall in that exclusive category ? but (unanticipated ?) Netflix produced its our world series, which would dilute the market value of the Attenborough series.

Iplayer functionality is fine no ? they don't leave the material online (more servers remark) because the licensing doesn't permit that ?
 
Scam said:
But you kinda did.

It's more about licensing and distribution deals, DRM is anti-piracy but whatever :o
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Not in the way that poster claimed - I'm well aware the BBC doesn't produce all it's content, the thread wasn't intended as a discussion of intellectual property rights but a tongue in cheek thread to suggest good BBC dramas now available on Netflix/Amazon. Yes I'm aware DRM is an acronym used to describe anti piracy measures too, the other poster referred to digital rights management... we know what he meant by that though.

Scam said:
The BBC continue to drop the ball with iPlayer, it seems they can't afford to buy bigger servers to store their content on lol. So it all disappears after a while and they instead ink deals with other platforms (such as Netflix) to distribute their shows. It makes perfect business sense, why have have McMafia sitting on your servers forever and ever - actually costing you money to serve viewers - whereas you could flog it to Netflix and make a small additional profit instead. That's my simplistic way of understanding it. It's a shame though.

And in not paying your licence fee you're just exacerbating the problem by not giving the BBC the 'profit' they deserve for these shows. Any wonder people keep wondering if they'd ditch the licence fee and instead leverage an 'iPlayer fee'.
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Yup, agree they have dropped the ball continuously with iplayer. Its clearly not always about not having the rights(not having paid enough to have the rights) to show this stuff later either, server costs etc.. too as you mention. Lets face it they could do with some slicker software and make iplayer more like Netflix, Amazon etc... They've got a bunch of good content themselves and could have been quicker off the ball launching some Netflix type service, commercially, to the rest of the world.

I'm not really exacerbating the problem, I'm simply a consumer reacting to it, I'm not pirating anything - the BBC and/or third party production company still get paid by Netflix/Amazon - it was their business decision to do so. It was the BBC's business decision to take the path it took with 3rd party companies and with it's in house produced content, only pay for rights for initial broadcast + 30 days iplayer etc...

matt100 said:
It's not BBC content, that's the point. It's content that was shown ON the BBC, not content the BBC made.
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You're arguing against a claim no one made in the first place. Take a look at the branding - look at those screen grabs from Netflix... note the BBC logo - when people refer to a "BBC drama" they're generally referring to stuff that was commissioned by and/or originally shown by the BBC whether it was produced 100% in house or as a joint production or by a third party.
 
So what's your complaint? The fact that you can't access this stuff on iplayer or that netflix are misselling saying it's BBC or just making noise for the sake of it?
 
I guess the BBC sign up to allow their logo to be on the content, and it is good for netflix marketting ? (like royal appointment on food),
in the same manner, that when I see Amazon/Netflix credit, on films, I am generally sceptical about quality.
 
matt100 said:
So what's your complaint? The fact that you can't access this stuff on iplayer or that netflix are misselling saying it's BBC or just making noise for the sake of it?
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See the post literally just above your one. I'm not really sure what your gripe is here - you seem to be deliberately ignoring what has actually been posted and then making up arguments against things that haven't been.

dowie said:
the thread wasn't intended as a discussion of intellectual property rights but a tongue in cheek thread to suggest good BBC dramas now available on Netflix/Amazon.
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But if you want my views on iplayer/BBC then I've commented on them in that post too...
 
mrbell1984 said:
This is why people don’t want to pay the licence now. Content is rubbish so people don’t watch live TV.

Bbc iPlayer catch-up is terrible as well.
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I don't think your point is particularly well founded. We pay the licence fee partly for them to commission the excellent shows that are listed in the thread. The BBC is still consistently commissioning and then licencing some excellent entertainment. Ok so they might be slightly behind the curve in terms of distribution but they produce a lot of content. I-Player works pretty well and they have continued to be quite innovative in areas like Childrens education and entertainment. Paying a licence fee is the same as paying a subscription and for the breadth of content being shown I think it still shows good value. Don't forget all the radio production that still attracts millions of listeners.
 
maybe covid will change the status quo ... but remember netflix isn't making any profit, and if it can't grow, constrained by other (new) streaming services, may implode, or 'quality'/content will decline. ... just like the amazon (online purchase, that is) paradigm.

Will people be keen to attend the reality tv shows, any more, too eg come dancing. / x factor / love island .. searching for a miniscule benefit from this pandemic
 
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