BBC license fee proposals...

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What an absolute joke.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...oadcaster-charter_uk_5734223be4b01359f6866d69

The licence fee, currently £145.50 a year, will run for another 11 years and rise in line with inflation from 2017 until 2022
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BBC stars earning over £450,000 will be forced to reveal their salaries but the corporation won’t be required to adjust its schedules or ‘top slice’ the licence fee to other broadcasters, the Government announced today.
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So not only are they raising the fee, they're not even distributing this between other broadcasters?? What gives them the right? Why can't they be independant and just compete with other broadcasters?

...but this just takes the cake...

Ministers are closing a loophole that meant Brits could previously avoid paying the licence fee by only watching programmes on iPlayer, extending the licence to include all catch-up services.
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Absolute criminals, how is this legal? Why is the government helping enforce this?? How will this even be monitored? How can they either prove or disprove that I am/not watching catch up services? Or even watching live BBC TV for that matter? The whole thing is a complete farce.

They will also order an increase in the annual fee, seeing the current amount of £145.50 rise in line with inflation from 2017 until 2022.
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**** off!

The problem is 99% of people will blindly just pay this fee without question, and those that don't have 'enforcers' come knocking on the door using scare tactics to make them pay.

The whole BBC as a whole needs to die, corrupt *** If you feel you must swear, please star out the entire word, not just parts of it. Thank you ***.

Discuss.
 
I'm not going to reply to all of the comments but I do think the need to pay for using the iPlayer is complete ********. Most of the time there is nothing on to watch anyway. I understand they need to make money but I completely agree, its just awful!!
 
Nothings really changed has it?

Only difference seems to be that you'll need a licence to watch iplayer which seems fair enough, the content isn't free to make and there are other ways of watching it if you are that way inclined.
 
I don't get your rage, why do you expect that because you can currently watch BBC programmes on catch up for free that you should continue to do so? Why should catch up be free? Why should licence payers pick up the tab for you?
 
MonkeyMan said:
Nothings really changed has it?

Only difference seems to be that you'll need a licence to watch iplayer which seems fair enough, the content isn't free to make and there are other ways of watching it if you are that way inclined.
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Kol said:
I don't get your rage, why do you expect that because you can currently watch BBC programmes on catch up for free that you should continue to do so? Why should catch up be free? Why should licence payers pick up the tab for you?
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doofer said:
No one is FORCED to watch TV. Don't watch it and don't pay it. Simplez.
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/fred :)
 
Gotta love licence fee rage, why not direct it to more worthy causes like car insurance and a market who has everone legally obliged to buy their product, and who for the vast majority of people charge hundreds even thousands of pounds a year for literally no service whatsoever.

If you've managed to extract more money from a car insurance company than you've paid them in your life then i salute you sir.

the bbc at least provides a service for its fee
 
MonkeyMan said:
Nothings really changed has it?

Only difference seems to be that you'll need a licence to watch iplayer which seems fair enough, the content isn't free to make and there are other ways of watching it if you are that way inclined.
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Nothing fair about it. 4od, 5 on demand, itv player...ALL free

All independant broadcasters not getting a penny from the tax payer, see my point?

Kol said:
I don't get your rage, why do you expect that because you can currently watch BBC programmes on catch up for free that you should continue to do so? Why should catch up be free? Why should licence payers pick up the tab for you?
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See above.

doofer said:
No one is FORCED to watch TV. Don't watch it and don't pay it. Simplez.
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Not that simple, even if you decide to not watch BBC programming, this can neither be proved or disproved leading to all sorts of trouble, i.e. visits from enforcers, letters... you name.
 
/\ndy said:
Nothing fair about it. 4od, 5 on demand, itv player...ALL free

All independant broadcasters not getting a penny from the tax payer, see my point
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Apart from they are funded by advertising so a completely different model. If you'd prefer an ad funded BBC which brings with it even greater problems sure, it can be 'free'
 
Ministers are closing a loophole that meant Brits could previously avoid paying the licence fee by only watching programmes on iPlayer, extending the licence to include all catch-up services.
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Not sure about this - all BBC catch-up services? Fair enough.

However all catch up services, like 4OD etc..? That is getting dodgy - requiring a license to watch stuff streamed over the internet. I mean I guess youtube doesn't count and presumably neither do amazon prime or netflix? But because the company providing the streaming is a TV company like Channel 4 then it will require a license? Or what about video clips or live streams on the BBC news website? Are streams from the general website fine but streams from 'iplayer' not fine?

Edit - actually pretty sure this is just going to cover iplayer.
 
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snips86x said:
I'm not going to reply to all of the comments but I do think the need to pay for using the iPlayer is complete ********. Most of the time there is nothing on to watch anyway. I understand they need to make money but I completely agree, its just awful!!
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Then don't watch it?

/\ndy said:
What an absolute joke.

http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...oadcaster-charter_uk_5734223be4b01359f6866d69





So not only are they raising the fee, they're not even distributing this between other broadcasters?? What gives them the right? Why can't they be independant and just compete with other broadcasters?
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It's been locked for a few years now which means it's been less and less every year. It's rising in line with inflation.
 
So are they going to make it so you get an account to access the iPlayer content, or just go down the "if you own a device that can receive BBC content then you need a licence", which would pretty much mean every person with a phone would require a licence...
 
doofer said:
No one is FORCED to watch TV. Don't watch it and don't pay it. Simplez.
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Ah yes, great point. I dont want to pay for BBC content so I should not watch anything on television ever as a result. ITS SO SIMPLE!

I dont feel like subscribing to The Guardian's website but I am still free to use other parts of the internet free of charge, why are the BBC allowed to monopolise an entire industry of which they themselves are only a relatively small part?
 
They would have a job enforcing iPlayer useage, but as you said, most people will pay anyway. Don't really see the point there though.

£145 isnt a fortune considering you can also pay weekly or monthly, about £11 per month, lot of rubbish on BBC though.

Advertisements make it lose its class and individuality, apparently. The world will go on.
 
I agree that they should be de-funded and set free into the greater market, they lost my license when their news section became a biased joke.

I now don't use the TV to connect to any live services and I don't even use iPlayer as they dont produce anything I feel is worth watching now.
 
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