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BD Support for Asus 890 Series boards

gareth170 said:
but the temp readings doesn't work on am3 with bd, so its pointless for people who oc
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Hey gareth, do you have a link to this information, mate?

As far as I'm aware the only 890 board tested with a BD was an MSI one, and that worked perfectly fine (barring some memory issues, which the reviewer was unsure of).

With regards to Asus boards - I'd be surprised if ANYONE has tested a BD on one, as many users on both the Asus forums and on Xtremesystems have reported that they can not get BD to boot at all using the latest 'test' bios (3017).

Anyone interested in getting 890 boards (as was promised by asus (evidenced in the linkie above)) to work, please apply due pressure as in the thread at XS, I've been everywhere and pointed users to that thread ;)
 
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As an owner of both the M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and CH4 I was hoping for Bulldozer support.
ASUS announced support some time ago and even released a BIOS so everything was looking good.
At the time though very few people actually had BD chips to test their claims.

Fast forward to today and it appears that the test BIOS and the latest BIOS releases don’t work with the retail BD chips. This is a poor show from ASUS.
The web page they had up announcing support for BD on their 890 boards has been taken down which is troubling.

For those that would say BD is not supported, won’t work on 890 chipsets etc, look at what MSI has done. They made good on their promise.

I'm not in the situation where I have a planned upgrade that will be going down the pan because of this but it is annoying all the same.
Now the preorders will most likely ship soon and I will be in the situation where I will have to purchase a new board if I want to use the chip.

I could order a CHV but I am very reluctant to do this as I feel ASUS are deliberately holding back the necessary BIOS updates to further sales of the CHV.

Having two boards already with supposed support for BD was the primary factor in my decision to purchase a BD chip.
I don’t need it per se, it will be a toy to OC, play with and share findings with others, and if the cost to me was only the purchase price of the chip then I was prepared to pay it.
Now it looks very likely I need to factor in another MB, this pushes costs up to an unacceptable level considering the expected performance of the BD CPU.
 
gareth170 said:
it was on gigabyte site but it seems they've removed it from they am3 boards. in fact they've removed all info about bd being supported in the overview on they am3 boards.
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Indeed, just before BD launch all the 880 and 890 boards had info about supporting BD but with Temp and SMART non-functional due to the change in pin layout.

Now BD isn't even mentioned!:eek:
 
PCZ said:
As an owner of both the M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 and CH4 I was hoping for Bulldozer support.
ASUS announced support some time ago and even released a BIOS so everything was looking good.
At the time though very few people actually had BD chips to test their claims.

Fast forward to today and it appears that the test BIOS and the latest BIOS releases don’t work with the retail BD chips. This is a poor show from ASUS.
The web page they had up announcing support for BD on their 890 boards has been taken down which is troubling.

For those that would say BD is not supported, won’t work on 890 chipsets etc, look at what MSI has done. They made good on their promise.

I'm not in the situation where I have a planned upgrade that will be going down the pan because of this but it is annoying all the same.
Now the preorders will most likely ship soon and I will be in the situation where I will have to purchase a new board if I want to use the chip.

I could order a CHV but I am very reluctant to do this as I feel ASUS are deliberately holding back the necessary BIOS updates to further sales of the CHV.

Having two boards already with supposed support for BD was the primary factor in my decision to purchase a BD chip.
I don’t need it per se, it will be a toy to OC, play with and share findings with others, and if the cost to me was only the purchase price of the chip then I was prepared to pay it.
Now it looks very likely I need to factor in another MB, this pushes costs up to an unacceptable level considering the expected performance of the BD CPU.
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I'm in EXACTLY the same boat mate. I'm refusing to give Asus any more of my money until they resolve this, as its highly unfair and bordering on illegal promoting features which are not available.

Most retailors in the UK had still been selling the CHIV as BD ready, thanks to Asus's statement. If we have to change boards, we'd be better off changing to an Intel system tbh, and if I'm forced down that route I will be striking Asus off my purchase list. To be honest the CHV is looking like the worst board to buy for Bulldozer anyway! - I'm liking the looks of the ASRock ones.

Its why I've started this thread and pushing everyone to the XS website where I've started a thread also - That way we can collate 'consumer pressure' ;)
 
HeX said:
Indeed, just before BD launch all the 880 and 890 boards had info about supporting BD but with Temp and SMART non-functional due to the change in pin layout.

Now BD isn't even mentioned!:eek:
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first I heard of this Temp and SMART issue. If you ask me its a load of rubbish. The ONLY problem was the socket - if a BD would physically work (due to either pins or electrical wiring on the mainboards). All the 890 boards sold with AM3+ sockets are evidence of this. Maybe Gigabyte mentioned this issue, but Asus sure as hell didn't.....Also note MSI actually has a working BIOS for their 890FX boards.....
 
zoomee said:
first I heard of this Temp and SMART issue. If you ask me its a load of rubbish. The ONLY problem was the socket - if a BD would physically work (due to either pins or electrical wiring on the mainboards). All the 890 boards sold with AM3+ sockets are evidence of this. Maybe Gigabyte mentioned this issue, but Asus sure as hell didn't.....Also note MSI actually has a working BIOS for their 890FX boards.....
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No, the Temp and SMART issue was only with 880/890 chipsets that used the AM3 socket, not AM3+. The CPU would work, but due to the different pin outs on AM3 Vs AM3+ you'd loose that functionality.

*shrug*

That's what Giga were saying anywho, before they completely removed all mention of BD from their AM3 boards =/
 
HeX said:
No, the Temp and SMART issue was only with 880/890 chipsets that used the AM3 socket, not AM3+. The CPU would work, but due to the different pin outs on AM3 Vs AM3+ you'd loose that functionality.

*shrug*

That's what Giga were saying anywho, before they completely removed all mention of BD from their AM3 boards =/
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yeah thats right.

it's something to do with a slightly different pin layout , i think or something
 
Pin layout is no different from the AM3 CPU's mate.

Interesting that only gigabyte have made that claim so far. MSI boards don't seem to have them issues - 890FX MSI performs literally the same as the CHV!
 
zoomee said:
Pin layout is no different from the AM3 CPU's mate.

Interesting that only gigabyte have made that claim so far. MSI boards don't seem to have them issues - 890FX MSI performs literally the same as the CHV!
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on the MSI boards are the core temp reading working/displayed with BD?
 
Martini1991 said:
Core temp sensor is still dodgy isn't it? Even on an AM3+ point.
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if amd wants people to monitor the Core temp sensor then i guess thats what we should do. if it burns out the cpu it would down to amd to replace it because of they dodgy sensor..

maybe it's only when idling it's dodgy, like some intel chips
 
zoomee said:
Pin layout is no different from the AM3 CPU's mate.
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Then why the new socket and extra pin hole?

In fact why bother making AM3+ at all as the 9 series chipset is just a rebadged 8 series... :confused:

What you are saying is AM3+ 9XX boards are just AM3 8XX... with a bios update.
 
HeX said:
Then why the new socket and extra pin hole?

In fact why bother making AM3+ at all as the 9 series chipset is just a rebadged 8 series... :confused:

What you are saying is AM3+ 9XX boards are just AM3 8XX... with a bios update.
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the nb 9 series chipset as some slight updates/coding

the sb 9 series chipset is just a rebadged 8 series but with SLI
 
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