Being screwed about by rockdirect.com [Legal Thread]

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So last year, late last year (September), I bought a laptop from www.rockdirect.com. It was fine, build quality was a bit average, but the performance per Euro was very good, and there were no problems with it, so I was happy.
About 5 months after I had bought the laptop, I was carrying it between lectures, and it ust wouldn't come out of standby after that. I tried everything, and long story short ended up having to send it back on RMA to the company for repair under warranty. The RMA was filed fine, TNT came to pick up the laptop, and I sent it off as described so the warranty still covered it (foam packed, original packaging, etc).
I heard nothing for about a month, maybe more, and decided to ring the company to see what was going on. They went "Oh, your laptop has evidence of liquid damage, we're not fixing it under warranty". They had completely forgotten to tell me this, and then told me I'd have to pay exorbitant fees to have the laptop repaired (About 3/4 of the cost of the laptop, quoting for replacement of motherboard, hard drive, and shipping back), or if I just wanted the laptop back so I could do the job myself and save a ton of money, I'd have to pay them what came to about 300 euros roughly in "wasting our time" and shipping charges. I asked for evidence of the liquid damage and got sent these, which show no evidence of liquid damage whatsoever (I thought, and had this confirmed by several other specialists):

http://netsoc.dit.ie/~drakai/stuff/photos/

I wasn't having any of this, so I contacted the Irish consumer association, who pointed me towards the European Consumer Centre because rockdirect was a British company. They were slow but insisted they were dealing with it, so I left them to it. About a month after I had contacted the ECC, www.rockdirect.com declared bankruptcy and entered administration. The ECC then dropped the case since the company was not running anymore, and told me to seek compensation as a creditor. Before I could do this, www.rockdirect.com was bought out by Stone, a British computer company, and released a news post on the website declaring they'd be resuming business and honoring all previous warranties. I told the ECC, who have claimed they've taken the case back up, but they're slow, Irish, and unrealiable so far.

Now, here's the interesting part. When I contacted rockdirect about my laptop the first time, they told me the insurance company responsible for warranty payouts was refusing to pay out for the laptop, not Rock Direct themselves, but the interesting thing is, when the company folded, the notice informing everyone to seek reiumbursement as a creditor stated that laptops still in their first year of warranty are rockdirects direct responsibility, and only laptops over their first year guarantee are paid for by the insurance company, this adds to the fishiness of the original liquid damage claim (As a CS student, I can honestly say that is a traditional hackneyed excuse pulled out by lots of dodgy companies).

Basically, I want to get my laptop back, I can't afford the repairs or a replacement, and I need it for college. It's been 4 months since the laptop was sent off, and I have no idea what to do. I have no idea what my legal standing is, what I can do, or how to go about it, I want my laptop back and I'm prepared to do whatever it takes to get it back, I just don't know what.

It goes without saying not a single drop of liquid has ever touched the laptop.

I do not know who to turn to for legal advice since legal stuff is so expensive in Ireland (Even consultation) So I have no idea what to do.
 
I found my university union had legal professionals that were able to offer good, free advice to students. You should contact your university and find out if they offer the same services, I imagine they do. I hope you get this sorted, I was actually considering a Rock laptop, you've put me off a bit.. rightly so by the sounds of it.
 
Have you tried ringing trading standards? Or wont they help as you are in Ireland? They gave me some good advice about which acts to quote and what my rights were when I was dealing with Dell.

But the gist of it was basically to write to their head office, recorded delivery, tell them they were in breach of the sale of goods & services act and that I was giving them 14 days to resolve the situation before pursuing a refund & costs through small claims.. Got a reply from Dell after sending this, agreeing to a refund. Was a bit more complicated since Dell suck horribly too, but I digress.. Give them a ring and see if they can help
 
Have you tried ringing trading standards? Or wont they help as you are in Ireland? They gave me some good advice about which acts to quote and what my rights were when I was dealing with Dell.

But the gist of it was basically to write to their head office, recorded delivery, tell them they were in breach of the sale of goods & services act and that I was giving them 14 days to resolve the situation before pursuing a refund & costs through small claims.. Got a reply from Dell after sending this, agreeing to a refund. Was a bit more complicated since Dell suck horribly too, but I digress.. Give them a ring and see if they can help

I'm not sure if they're an international organisation? If they're UK only I'd probably have to find an Irish equivalent.

But since Rock are a UK company...
 
Yeah mate, thats what i thought, since rock are in the UK, they are subject to UK law.. well at least that makes sense to me :)

Worth a phone call imho, worst they can do is point you in the direction of someone who can help if they cant.

Like i said they were good, took details and told me what to say and told me to call back again if I didnt get anywhere so they could tell me what to do next.

Hope it helps, and it works out for you. Think I will stick to my trusty macbook pro from now on.. lol
 
I think you have been unlucky in that you have been dealing with a company under financial stress. Maybe the situation will improve now they have been taken over. However, if you are not given a decent settlement in the near term, then for the amount they want to charge you to send it back to you I would almost consider asking if you could arrange collection yourself ... maybe even get a cheap flight to Ireland yourself ... and then consider whether to pursue a legal challenge later. I do not wish to be flippant but Ireland is definitely worth a visit. If you think costs are going to be an issue then seriously consider cutting your losses and buying an Asus eee ... £300 (although lacking CD Rom) and a few other things, but it might do you.

Rgds
 
I think you have been unlucky in that you have been dealing with a company under financial stress. Maybe the situation will improve now they have been taken over. However, if you are not given a decent settlement in the near term, then for the amount they want to charge you to send it back to you I would almost consider asking if you could arrange collection yourself ... maybe even get a cheap flight to Ireland yourself ... and then consider whether to pursue a legal challenge later. I do not wish to be flippant but Ireland is definitely worth a visit. If you think costs are going to be an issue then seriously consider cutting your losses and buying an Asus eee ... £300 (although lacking CD Rom) and a few other things, but it might do you.

Rgds

I rang them shortly after the announced the takeover and they said nothing has changed.

I live in Ireland. I would be flying to the UK to get the laptop.

I plan on buying an MSI Wind anyway.
 
I live in Ireland. I would be flying to the UK to get the laptop.

Ah right, sorry ...

Some general thoughts from me for what it's worth:

I would be sending them letters in writing by recorded delivery, so that it could be proven in a legal case that you had informed them.

Send them a letter, make your case as best you can, if you have photos to back up your claims use them, etc etc. Try and track down the name of the person responsible for customer complaints in the company. If necessary, keep elevating, all the way up to board level, and start writing to them too!!

Find out the details of the warranty company too and write to them for good measure.

Contact UK trading standards and send Rock Direct / warranty company a copy of the letter you sent to Trading Standards.

Perhaps ask for their claims to be verified by an independent computer specialist of your choice??

Possibly mention your thinking of taking your case to Watchdog UK, a UK consumer affairs TV programme?

If all this fails, just try pleading with them to send it back to you free of charge, it's the least they could do.

Getting lawyers involved would be expensive and I'm not sure it would be worth it, but you can always threaten legal action.

Finally, you have my sympathies, because I know how relatively expensive laptop issues can be when you are a student ... and if you have a genuine case I feel their attitude is pretty dire ... but making laptops is a very tough business to compete in, so I guess that's why this type of thing occurs.

All the best
 
I'm more worried that it's been too long to effectively do anything about it. If I could get the laptop back even I'ds be happy to repair it myself.
 
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