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Benefit of getting better than founders edition card?

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I'm looking at getting either a 1070 or a 1080 and will be watercooling it. Is the benefit's over the founders edition just better cooling to start with so they can achieve better stock results? If I am getting one to watercool, will there be much difference between the cheapest and the most expensive card? Or the cheapest founders edition and the cheapest none founders edition?
 
EVGA card for warranty that allows cooler removal.

Your better off getting the cheapest reference EVGA 1070 if you plan on water cooling. Reference board overclock just as well as AIB cards. Reference water blocks/backplates are also cheaper than custom AIB ones.

EVGA FE or SC, whichever is cheapest.
 
some of the non reference boards will have better power delivery/control, with more phases.
Might come in to play if you start pushing things.
Not every non reference board has an available custom water block though.
Water cooling is going to help and may level out performance issues, but there's more to a board than just a cooler.
 
some of the non reference boards will have better power delivery/control, with more phases.
Might come in to play if you start pushing things.
Not every non reference board has an available custom water block though.
Water cooling is going to help and may level out performance issues, but there's more to a board than just a cooler.

A simple 8 pin power supply will provide massively more power than the 1080 needs. The 2 x 8 pin models are purely for asthetics(!)
 
Not the same thing. Its not the supply to the board, but regulation on the board.

The most basic VRM designs (4 or 5 phase on founders I believe) with one 8pin are capable of the same boost clocks as the most expensive 8/12 whatever phase cards.

Plenty of people put founders cards on water and have amazing results.
 
Cheapest 1070 here is the Zotac FE-Cooler removal=Warranty void, look for the cheapest that allows cooler removal.

Thanks all. I believe MSI and EVGA allow the change of coolers, correct?

Zotac do not have warranty stickers on the screws even though their policy forbids it if you put it back together they wont know

i wouldnt trust MSI or any manufacturer that has warranty stickers on the screws as there is conflicting reports as to if they will honor the warranty

EVGA are the only ones to come out and confirm you can do it officially
Gigabyte do not have stickers either and they have UK RMA and are pretty good
 
Not trying to start an argument but is it really worth sticking the 1070 / 1080 under water? I thought they didnt clock well regardless of temps? I mean... is it really worth it?
 
Not trying to start an argument but is it really worth sticking the 1070 / 1080 under water? I thought they didnt clock well regardless of temps? I mean... is it really worth it?

If you are after a silent system then yes. Customer watercooling loop, big radiator with a good pump on minimum RPM will be practically silent.

Ignore those putting CPU AIO's on their GPU's - those pumps are very noisy plus they still require a fan on the GPU to cool the VRM's/VRAM, so pretty pointless and fail IMO.
 
Not trying to start an argument but is it really worth sticking the 1070 / 1080 under water? I thought they didnt clock well regardless of temps? I mean... is it really worth it?

Got to be something to it, as the FuryXs were water cooled, and they didn't overclock for toffee :D
 
It's just slotting in my existing loop, with some new pipes and fittings but nevertheless it's already a loop and just upgrading my card so wanted to keep it cooled.. Plus, I want silent :)
 
Not trying to start an argument but is it really worth sticking the 1070 / 1080 under water? I thought they didnt clock well regardless of temps? I mean... is it really worth it?

Mine sit all day long under water at 2101mhz. One of mine underwater will run 2169mhz without any issue.

Just keeps them cool. Rarely see them over 40c. And stable. On air they will drop over time. Like me in SLI, 1-200mhz due to temps if not more. Under water they sit rock solid at 2.1ghz.

All while keeping my pumps at 20% and fans at 6-700rpm max. I honestly can't hear my system, even at full tilt :p
 
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