BEST gaming ISP

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms main.router [192.168.1.1]
2 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
3 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
4 14 ms 13 ms 15 ms redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
5 15 ms 14 ms 15 ms g2-2-501.cr01.hx2.bb.pipex.net [193.203.5.14]
6 16 ms 14 ms 15 ms v3952.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.137.9]
7 14 ms 15 ms 16 ms g3-1-5.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
8 14 ms 14 ms 16 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
9 14 ms 15 ms 15 ms secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms main.router [192.168.1.1]
2 12 ms 12 ms 13 ms telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
3 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
4 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
5 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms ams-ix.sara.xs4all.net [195.69.144.48]
6 30 ms 50 ms 58 ms 0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
7 32 ms 30 ms 29 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
8 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms main.router [192.168.1.1]
2 13 ms 12 ms 13 ms telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
3 14 ms 13 ms 13 ms telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
4 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
5 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms ams-ix.sara.xs4all.net [195.69.144.48]
6 30 ms 30 ms 31 ms 0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
7 30 ms 32 ms 30 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
8 30 ms 31 ms 30 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert www.kplay.de

Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms main.router [192.168.1.1]
2 12 ms 13 ms 13 ms telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
3 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
4 15 ms 14 ms 14 ms redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
5 15 ms 15 ms 16 ms 213.228.216.33
6 * 14 ms 14 ms ae-22-56.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.176]

7 14 ms 15 ms 14 ms ge-3-0-5-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.129]

8 33 ms 31 ms 31 ms so-0-1-2.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.25]
9 33 ms 31 ms 31 ms so-4-0-0.core1.d.tiscali.de [213.200.64.110]
10 31 ms 31 ms 33 ms ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
11 31 ms 31 ms 32 ms ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
12 32 ms 33 ms 33 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>tracert 213.148.132.40

Tracing route to gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms main.router [192.168.1.1]
2 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms telehouse-bb-gw1-vpdn.idnet.net [212.69.63.45]
3 14 ms 14 ms 13 ms telehouse-gw-bb.idnet.net [212.69.63.9]
4 22 ms 15 ms 15 ms redbus-gw.idnet.net [212.69.63.1]
5 15 ms 16 ms 14 ms 213.228.216.33
6 16 ms 15 ms 15 ms ae-0-52.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.34]
7 25 ms 25 ms 24 ms as-1-0.bbr2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.68.128.214
]
8 25 ms 24 ms 25 ms ae-22-56.car2.Dusseldorf1.Level3.net [4.68.119.1
76]
9 24 ms 25 ms 25 ms core1.dus.qsc.de [62.67.36.78]
10 27 ms 28 ms 29 ms core2.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.125]
11 63 ms 28 ms 30 ms core3.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.14]
12 28 ms 29 ms 29 ms gw-hosting.fra.qsc.de [213.148.128.246]
13 29 ms 28 ms 27 ms gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Administrator>

With IDNet Home Super Max (BT Ipstream Premium) connection
 
Aquiss.

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>ping www.jolt.co.uk

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=9ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 9ms, Maximum = 9ms, Average = 9ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 9 ms 8 ms 10 ms dogwood.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.69]
3 9 ms 9 ms 10 ms vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.6
5]
4 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]

5 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54
]
6 11 ms 10 ms 9 ms 197.g6-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.78.217]

7 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms so-0-0-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net [64.125.27.225]

8 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms gxn-pi-above-1000Mbps.lhr.above.net [209.249.203
.138]
9 9 ms 10 ms 10 ms g3-1-5.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
10 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
11 10 ms 10 ms 10 ms secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>ping www.snakeservers.net

Pinging www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=22ms TTL=55
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=55

Ping statistics for 82.94.228.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 22ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 9 ms 9 ms 8 ms dogwood.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.69]
3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.6
5]
4 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]

5 9 ms 10 ms 9 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54
]
6 17 ms 17 ms 17 ms 853.gi0-0.amsterdam.core.enta.net [87.127.246.2]

7 18 ms 19 ms 18 ms ams-ix.tc2.xs4all.net [195.69.144.166]
8 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 0.so-7-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.9]
9 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
10 18 ms 18 ms 18 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>ping www.kplay.de

Pinging www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=53
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=23ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 81.3.59.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 23ms, Maximum = 24ms, Average = 23ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>tracert www.kplay.de

Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms dogwood.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.69]
3 8 ms 10 ms 9 ms vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.6
5]
4 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]

5 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54
]
6 20 ms 9 ms 10 ms 197.g6-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.78.217]

7 10 ms 10 ms 9 ms so-3-0-2.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.77]
8 20 ms 20 ms 20 ms so-1-0-0.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.2]
9 19 ms 20 ms 20 ms tiscalide-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.65.242]
10 24 ms 25 ms 23 ms ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
11 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
12 24 ms 24 ms 24 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>ping 213.148.132.40

Pinging 213.148.132.40 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=54
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=54
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=54
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=54

Ping statistics for 213.148.132.40:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 25ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 25ms

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>tracert 213.148.132.40

Tracing route to gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms SpeedTouch.lan [10.0.0.138]
2 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms dogwood.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.69]
3 9 ms 9 ms 9 ms vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.6
5]
4 10 ms 9 ms 9 ms gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]

5 10 ms 9 ms 10 ms te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54
]
6 25 ms 24 ms 26 ms 418.gi0-0.frankfurt.core.enta.net [87.127.246.6]

7 26 ms 25 ms 26 ms peergw-decix.fra.qsc.de [80.81.192.41]
8 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms core2.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.105]
9 38 ms 26 ms 26 ms core3.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.10]
10 27 ms 26 ms 27 ms gw-hosting.fra.qsc.de [213.148.128.246]
11 26 ms 26 ms 26 ms gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Wright>
 
wow them pings would be nice

where are you located ?


edit
southend

figures nearly everyone in southend gets ownage pings
 
Last edited:
TiZoR said:
wow them pings would be nice

where are you located ?


edit
southend

figures nearly everyone in southend gets ownage pings

:confused: I don't have it in my profile.

Yeah, I am located in Southend, 1KM from exchange EASBY - as the crow flies. :)
 
UKFSN (Entanet reseller)

Home MAX 30 (Fastpath)

Code:
Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1     1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    22 ms    27 ms    22 ms  chestnut.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.68]
  3    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.65]
  4    24 ms    24 ms    23 ms  gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]
  5    24 ms    22 ms    22 ms  te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54]
  6    31 ms    22 ms    23 ms  197.ge-1-2-3.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [213.161.78.217]
  7    27 ms    24 ms    40 ms  64.125.28.38.available.above.net [64.125.28.38]
  8    26 ms    23 ms    22 ms  gxn-pi-above-1000Mbps.lhr.above.net [209.249.203.138]
  9    23 ms    23 ms    24 ms  g3-1-5.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
 10    24 ms    24 ms    22 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.241.14]
 11    25 ms    24 ms    23 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    50 ms    22 ms    22 ms  chestnut.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.68]
  3    23 ms    25 ms    24 ms  vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.65]
  4    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]
  5    24 ms    24 ms    23 ms  te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54]
  6   123 ms    32 ms    32 ms  853.gi0-0.amsterdam.core.enta.net [87.127.246.2]
  7    32 ms    33 ms    32 ms  ams-ix.tc2.xs4all.net [195.69.144.166]
  8    31 ms    33 ms    34 ms  0.so-7-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.9]
  9    31 ms    34 ms    31 ms  0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
 10    31 ms    33 ms    32 ms  s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    22 ms    23 ms    22 ms  chestnut.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.68]
  3    22 ms    22 ms    22 ms  vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.65]
  4    22 ms    22 ms    23 ms  gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]
  5    24 ms    26 ms    25 ms  te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54]
  6    22 ms    28 ms    24 ms  197.ge-1-2-3.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net [213.161.78.217]
  7    23 ms    23 ms    22 ms  so-3-0-2.lon11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.77]
  8    37 ms    35 ms    34 ms  so-1-0-0.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.2]
  9    35 ms    34 ms    34 ms  tiscalide-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.65.242]
 10    38 ms    40 ms    40 ms  ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
 11    39 ms    37 ms    37 ms  ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
 12    38 ms    37 ms    38 ms  kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    25 ms    21 ms    22 ms  chestnut.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.68]
  3    24 ms    21 ms    22 ms  vlan4001.global-switch.dsl.enta.net [84.45.242.65]
  4    23 ms    29 ms    23 ms  gi2-3.global-switch.bdr.enta.net [84.45.242.45]
  5    22 ms    22 ms    23 ms  te5-2.telehouse-east.bdr.enta.net [87.127.236.54]
  6    39 ms    38 ms    38 ms  418.gi0-0.frankfurt.core.enta.net [87.127.246.6]
  7    42 ms    39 ms    39 ms  peergw-decix.fra.qsc.de [80.81.192.41]
  8    38 ms    38 ms    38 ms  core2.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.105]
  9    39 ms    39 ms    39 ms  core3.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.14]
 10    40 ms    40 ms    40 ms  gw-hosting.fra.qsc.de [213.148.128.246]
 11    43 ms    47 ms    42 ms  gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]

Trace complete.
 
Eclipse

Code:
Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  82.152.176.1
  3    15 ms    13 ms    14 ms  81.5.191.217
  4    13 ms    13 ms    14 ms  ge1-1-core4.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.2]
  5    20 ms    13 ms    15 ms  251.ge-1-2-3.mpr1.lhr3.uk.above.net 13.161.78.85]
  6    15 ms    14 ms    17 ms  64.125.28.38.available.above.net [64.125.28.38]
  7    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  gxn-pi-above-1000Mbps.lhr.above.net [209.249.203.138]
  8    13 ms    14 ms    16 ms  g1-1-6.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
  9    17 ms     *       13 ms  ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net[212.241.241.14]
 10    15 ms    19 ms    14 ms  secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    14 ms    14 ms    13 ms  82.152.176.1
  3    15 ms    16 ms    14 ms  81.5.191.217
  4    15 ms    14 ms    16 ms  gsr12012.lon.he.net [195.66.224.21]
  5    22 ms    24 ms     *     pos2-0.gsr12416.ams.he.net [216.66.24.158]
  6    22 ms    22 ms    24 ms  154.41.66.216.in-addr.arpa [216.66.41.154]
  7    25 ms    22 ms    23 ms  0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
  8    21 ms    24 ms    23 ms  0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
  9    23 ms    22 ms    22 ms  s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    14 ms    13 ms    13 ms  82.152.176.1
  3    13 ms    14 ms    13 ms  81.5.191.217
  4    16 ms    15 ms    14 ms  ge-1-1.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [212.187.151.157]
  5    15 ms    14 ms    15 ms  so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]
  6    15 ms    16 ms    16 ms  ae-22-56.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.176]
  7    14 ms    16 ms     *     ge-3-0-5-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.129]
  8    31 ms    30 ms    29 ms  so-0-1-2.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.25]
  9    33 ms    32 ms    33 ms  tiscalide-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.65.242]
 10    32 ms    33 ms    35 ms  ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
 11    30 ms    31 ms    32 ms  ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
 12    33 ms    33 ms    32 ms  kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

Code:
Tracing route to gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1    <1 ms    <1 ms    <1 ms  www.routerlogin.com [192.168.0.1]
  2    13 ms    13 ms    13 ms  82.152.176.1
  3    16 ms     *       14 ms  81.5.191.217
  4    34 ms    36 ms    36 ms  core1.dus.qsc.de [195.66.224.74]
  5    37 ms    38 ms    38 ms  core2.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.125]
  6    33 ms    33 ms    35 ms  core3.fra.qsc.de [213.148.134.14]
  7    35 ms    33 ms    34 ms  gw-hosting.fra.qsc.de [213.148.128.246]
  8    38 ms    40 ms    38 ms  gs40.speicherland.com [213.148.132.40]

Trace complete.
 
Im on Aquiss too, up and comnig isp known for their brilliant customer service, pings and download speeds are excellent, also good value for money (office 45)
 
Im with NewNet.




Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\Sean>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 25 ms 14 ms 20 ms redback-lb-bgp.newnet.co.uk [212.87.77.54]
3 28 ms 13 ms 12 ms th8.th.newnet.co.uk [81.3.81.8]
4 13 ms 19 ms 13 ms te1-3.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [195.66.224.29]
5 14 ms 14 ms 15 ms g1-1-6.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
6 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
7 14 ms 14 ms 14 ms secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Sean>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 2 ms 192.168.1.1
2 13 ms 13 ms 13 ms redback-lb-bgp.newnet.co.uk [212.87.77.54]
3 14 ms 12 ms 16 ms th8.th.newnet.co.uk [81.3.81.8]
4 28 ms 29 ms 29 ms gsr12012.lon.he.net [195.66.224.21]
5 37 ms 35 ms 29 ms pos2-0.gsr12416.ams.he.net [216.66.24.158]
6 70 ms 46 ms 52 ms 154.41.66.216.in-addr.arpa [216.66.41.154]
7 92 ms 28 ms 27 ms 0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
8 78 ms 108 ms 145 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
9 52 ms 28 ms 39 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Sean>tracert www.kplay.de

Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 29 ms 20 ms 16 ms redback-lb-bgp.newnet.co.uk [212.87.77.54]
3 13 ms 13 ms 12 ms th3.th.newnet.co.uk [81.3.81.3]
4 15 ms 17 ms 13 ms 212.113.21.65
5 13 ms 14 ms 25 ms ae-22-56.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.176]

6 13 ms 15 ms 14 ms ge-3-0-5-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.129]

7 31 ms 45 ms 41 ms so-0-1-2.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.25]
8 37 ms 31 ms 31 ms so-4-0-0.core1.d.tiscali.de [213.200.64.110]
9 71 ms 36 ms * ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
10 38 ms 35 ms 37 ms ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
11 42 ms 34 ms 35 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Sean>
 
you realise that pings to their websites aren't likely to be an indicator of pings in games??

good enough for comparison purposes tho i suppose
 
You also realise that where you are is going to make more of a difference than the ISP you're with, and someone else on either the same or a different ISP doesn't guarantee your performance (so in other words once you've eliminated Tiscali et al, you're mostly plucking at straws)?
 
nope

its well documented that zen are rubbish for pings

the speeds are fine, but zens routing sux
 
TiZoR said:
its well documented that zen are rubbish for pings

the speeds are fine, but zens routing sux

Only if you live in the south, and you're heading for a destination in the south, which comes back to what I said - your ping's going to vary more on its journey through BTw's network (which depends on where you are) than it ever will on its journey through any decent ISP's network.

I typically get ~30ms to Jolt, and much the same to CERN. On Zen, in Scotland - the same, if not better, than what I got when I was on Plusnet (and that was before it completely turned to crap), who terminate their Centrals in London.
 
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TiZoR said:
nope

its well documented that zen are rubbish for pings

the speeds are fine, but zens routing sux


Always had pings less than 20ms to jolt. Been with zen for 4 years now.

As has been said a lot depends on where you are and where your isp based and where you are pinging. Zen's main datacentre is in Rochdale so obviously if you live daaarn saaarf you ping will be higher compared to an isp with a datacentre in london for example. Making sweeping statements about an ISP based on heresay is pointless.

2MB Fixed ADSL ( old non max ) Zen ( Manchester ).

Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>tracert www.jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [10.0.0.1]
2 14 ms 12 ms 12 ms gauthier-dsl1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.17]
3 * 10 ms 12 ms lotze-ge-0-0-1-136.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.137]
4 12 ms 13 ms 15 ms no-dns-yet-62-3-80-78.zen.co.uk [62.3.80.78]
5 19 ms 19 ms 18 ms suarez-so-0-0-0-0.te.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.62]
6 20 ms 21 ms 19 ms te1-3.cr05.tn5.bb.pipex.net [195.66.224.29]
7 20 ms 20 ms 19 ms g3-1-5.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.14]
8 21 ms 19 ms 20 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
9 21 ms 20 ms 19 ms secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [10.0.0.1]
2 11 ms 13 ms 11 ms gauthier-dsl1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.17]
3 10 ms 11 ms 12 ms lotze-ge-0-0-1-136.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.137]
4 12 ms 10 ms 56 ms no-dns-yet-62-3-80-78.zen.co.uk [62.3.80.78]
5 21 ms 19 ms 18 ms suarez-so-0-0-0-0.te.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.62]
6 19 ms 26 ms 25 ms gsr12012.lon.he.net [195.66.224.21]
7 27 ms 26 ms 25 ms pos2-0.gsr12416.ams.he.net [216.66.24.158]
8 27 ms 28 ms 27 ms 154.41.66.216.in-addr.arpa [216.66.41.154]
9 27 ms 26 ms 26 ms 0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
10 62 ms 109 ms 26 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
11 28 ms 27 ms 26 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>tracert www.kplay.de

Tracing route to www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms www.routerlogin.com [10.0.0.1]
2 10 ms 11 ms 12 ms gauthier-dsl1.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.82.17]
3 11 ms 11 ms 11 ms lotze-ge-0-0-1-136.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.137]
4 12 ms 12 ms 11 ms spinoza-ge-0-0-0-0.hq.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.65]
5 24 ms 12 ms 13 ms bolzano-ae2-0.wh.zen.net.uk [62.3.80.53]
6 11 ms 13 ms 12 ms 195.16.169.89
7 13 ms 12 ms 12 ms so-6-1-0.mp2.Manchesteruk1.Level3.net [4.68.113.
118]
8 19 ms 18 ms 19 ms ae-1-0.bbr2.London1.Level3.net [212.187.128.57]

9 20 ms 19 ms 19 ms ae-22-52.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.48]
10 20 ms 18 ms 19 ms ge-3-0-5-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.129]

11 33 ms 32 ms 32 ms so-0-1-2.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.25]
12 33 ms 34 ms 33 ms tiscalide-gw.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.65.242]
13 37 ms 36 ms 37 ms ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
14 36 ms 37 ms 38 ms ge-1-1.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.166]
15 37 ms 37 ms 35 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>




Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\user>ping www.jolt.co.uk

Pinging www.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=21ms TTL=53
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=53
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=17ms TTL=53
Reply from 82.133.85.65: bytes=32 time=18ms TTL=53

Ping statistics for 82.133.85.65:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 17ms, Maximum = 21ms, Average = 18ms

C:\Documents and Settings\user>ping www.snakeservers.net

Pinging www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=24ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=26ms TTL=50
Reply from 82.94.228.2: bytes=32 time=25ms TTL=50

Ping statistics for 82.94.228.2:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 24ms, Maximum = 26ms, Average = 25ms

C:\Documents and Settings\user>ping www.kplay.de

Pinging www.kplay.de [81.3.59.4] with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=34ms TTL=48
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=48
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=35ms TTL=48
Reply from 81.3.59.4: bytes=32 time=36ms TTL=48

Ping statistics for 81.3.59.4:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 34ms, Maximum = 36ms, Average = 35ms

C:\Documents and Settings\user>ping 213.148.132.40

Pinging 213.148.132.40 with 32 bytes of data:

Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=56
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=56
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=42ms TTL=56
Reply from 213.148.132.40: bytes=32 time=41ms TTL=56

Ping statistics for 213.148.132.40:
Packets: Sent = 4, Received = 4, Lost = 0 (0% loss),
Approximate round trip times in milli-seconds:
Minimum = 41ms, Maximum = 42ms, Average = 41ms

C:\Documents and Settings\user>
 
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ste_bla said:

also eclipse:

C:\Documents and Settings\Matt-o>tracert jolt.co.uk

Tracing route to jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms 82.153.8.1
3 78 ms 238 ms 185 ms 82.153.2.49
4 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms ge1-1-core4.th.eclipse.net.uk [81.5.191.2]
5 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 251.g6-0.mpr1.lhr1.uk.above.net [213.161.78.85]

6 31 ms 29 ms 29 ms so-1-0-0.mpr1.lhr2.uk.above.net [64.125.28.38]
7 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms gxn-pi-above-1000Mbps.lhr.above.net [209.249.203
.138]
8 29 ms 31 ms 30 ms g1-1-6.er01.tn5.bb.pipex.net [62.72.140.142]
9 30 ms 32 ms 30 ms ge-0-0-0-3801.jolt-gw.cust.pipex.net [212.241.24
1.14]
10 31 ms 31 ms 30 ms secure.jolt.co.uk [82.133.85.65]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Matt-o>tracert www.snakeservers.net

Tracing route to www.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 82.153.8.1
3 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 82.153.2.57
4 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms lon.he.net [195.66.226.21]
5 37 ms 36 ms 37 ms pos2-0.gsr12416.ams.he.net [216.66.24.158]
6 36 ms 37 ms 36 ms 154.41.66.216.in-addr.arpa [216.66.41.154]
7 38 ms 38 ms 36 ms 0.so-6-0-0.xr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.1]
8 66 ms 37 ms 37 ms 0.so-3-0-0.cr1.3d12.xs4all.net [194.109.5.58]
9 38 ms 38 ms 36 ms s1-2.snakeservers.net [82.94.228.2]

Trace complete.

C:\Documents and Settings\Matt-o>tracert kplay.de

Tracing route to kplay.de [81.3.59.4]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

1 <1 ms <1 ms <1 ms 192.168.1.1
2 30 ms 29 ms 29 ms 82.153.8.1
3 30 ms 30 ms 30 ms 82.153.2.49
4 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms ge-1-1.metro2-londencyh00.London1.Level3.net [21
2.187.151.157]
5 31 ms 30 ms 30 ms so-1-2-0.gar2.London1.Level3.net [212.113.0.118]

6 30 ms 29 ms 30 ms ae-22-52.car2.London1.Level3.net [4.68.116.48]
7 29 ms 29 ms 29 ms ge-3-0-5-0.lon22.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.77.129]

8 46 ms 46 ms 46 ms so-0-1-2.dus11.ip.tiscali.net [213.200.82.25]
9 46 ms 48 ms 46 ms so-4-0-0.core1.d.tiscali.de [213.200.64.110]
10 47 ms 47 ms 47 ms ae0.core2.f.tiscali.de [62.27.95.42]
11 46 ms 47 ms 46 ms ge-1-2.swi01.r206.f.tiscali.de [62.27.92.137]
12 47 ms 46 ms 47 ms kate.krawall.de [81.3.59.4]

Trace complete.


rather worse than above (canterbury). On the cheapest evolution package.
 
AtreuS said:
Always had pings less than 20ms to jolt. Been with zen for 4 years now.

As has been said a lot depends on where you are and where your isp based and where you are pinging. Zen's main datacentre is in Rochdale so obviously if you live daaarn saaarf you ping will be higher compared to an isp with a datacentre in london for example. Making sweeping statements about an ISP based on heresay is pointless.

2MB Fixed ADSL ( old non max ) Zen ( Manchester ).

SNIP

Yes they are rubbish for me for pings:-

Reason they have routing going to Manchester before anywhere else

This adds about 10ms or more to my first hop then further 10ms to London

So im + 20ms before it’s even reached London’s gaming servers.

I have no problem with Zen other than their routing is rubbish.

Speeds are fine [apart from last 2 weeks but now ok]

CS is good etc.

I only use my connection for online gaming, so im after the best ISP with the best routing to do this.

Hence why im asking for trace routes to my fav servers.

so keep em coming :D im sure others will use this thread with interest
 
And 5 posts ago...

where you are is going to make more of a difference than the ISP you're with

You implied they were rubbish for everyone, and it was "their routing that sux" too, which also isn't true. It's nothing to do with the ISP's routing, and everything to do with BTw's (often circular) routes.

If it's a "London-based" ISP you're after then for starters, Pipex/Nildram/F2S, Eclipse, Plusnet, Enta all (at least used to) terminate their Centrals in London. Whether I'd recommend any of them over Zen is debatable (Pipex group shaping/dodgy support, Eclipse punting users to Tiscali LLU, Enta patently lying that they're maxing out their Centrals)
 
why are you sticking up for zen?

and they are rubbish for pings, for people who live outside manchester

im saying what i get and others get on adslguide


i wouldnt touch eclipse,nildram,pipex,aol,tiscali
 
TiZoR said:
why are you sticking up for zen?

Hardly - I'd probably be with an Enta reseller if they hadn't turned to mush.
I'm pointing out the flaws in your crummy argument (and let's face it, it isn't hard) that you're using to find a new ISP, which are:
  • The biggest part of the latency to somewhere (in the UK) is within the BTw network between you and the other end of the ISP's Central
  • Someone else's pings don't necessarily resemble what you'd get if they're in a different part of the country (see point 1)
  • Someone on the same exchange's pings aren't necessarily representative - it wouldn't be the first time different VPs have been routed via different RASs (see point 1)

and they are rubbish for pings, for people who live outside manchester

On Zen, in Scotland - the same, if not better, than what I got when I was on Plusnet (and that was before it completely turned to crap), who terminate their Centrals in London.

So wrong again. Need we keep going round and round?
 
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