Best HDR settings to use?

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This seems like a mindfield at the minute, depending on what source you use

for example, the xbox one x console.....

after spending hours researching this, the best settings on the xbox side are 8bit RGB colour space. This is so SDR games look their best and HDR ones auto switch the TV to 10bit limited colour space. I've tested this in person and can confirm it's correct. The downside though is that although the xbox switches to the correct mode and displays content correctly, the tv settings remain the same so you have to manual change them each time you switch between an SDR and HDR game (increasing the brightness for example).

the amazon app on the tv switches modes on the tv correctly. When playing the man in the high castle, the tv is set to backlight 14......when playing the man in the high castle ultra hd the tv is set to backlight 20.

netflix however isn't as clever, it's like the xbox in that you have to manually change settings

anyway, the TV side of things doing my head in....

Two TVs in the house (Samsung ks7000 which is 10bit hdr certified and a Samsung mu6400 which is not). Both have the general stuff sorted like enabling hdr on all hdmi ports, switching off all eco modes, putting the display size to 16:9 with fit to screen on (in order to get 1:1 mapping). When playing games from consoles game mode is on to reduce lag (damn, what a difference it makes too).

ks7000

Movie Mode
Warm2 Profile
Backlight 8 (in hdr mode 20)
Brightness 0
Contrast 100
Sharpness 0
Colour 50
Smart LED Low (despite one tech site saying high, I'm toying with switching this off)
Motion Control Off
Colour space Auto

all other processing stuff off

mu6400

Movie Mode
Warm2 Profile
Backlight 14 (in hdr mode 20)
Brightness 45
Contrast 95
Sharpness 0
Colour 50
Motion Control Off
Colour space Auto

all other processing stuff off

annoyingly both tvs suffer from 24p 3:2 pulldown judder but I have kinda gotten used to it. Just the start of la la land when the camera is panning across the cars on the bridge, almost makes me feel sick.

think I'm 99% there with everything!
 
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i don't mean this to come across the wrong way , but i'm not sure what your asking ? seems you have all the bases covered :)
 
You did not seem to mention any calibration of rec2020/hdr white balance etc ?
After seeing Vincents discussion on different HDR EOTF transfer curves between oled models (Pan/Sony/LG) where user has no control over the max'ing of the backlight level,
it seemed that diminishing the whites at the higher brightness levels may reduce (eye) retina burning levels.

annoyingly both tvs suffer from 24p 3:2 pulldown judder
isn't that a common issue with tv apps using the netflix et al 60hz (is it ?) stream; running there apps on a Kaby PC is a workaround ? (this solution fixes iplayer anyway.)
 
You did not seem to mention any calibration of rec2020/hdr white balance etc ?
After seeing Vincents discussion on different HDR EOTF transfer curves between oled models (Pan/Sony/LG) where user has no control over the max'ing of the backlight level,
it seemed that diminishing the whites at the higher brightness levels may reduce (eye) retina burning levels.


isn't that a common issue with tv apps using the netflix et al 60hz (is it ?) stream; running there apps on a Kaby PC is a workaround ? (this solution fixes iplayer anyway.)

I have looked into it, but especially with a source such as the xbox it would be extremely annoying having to change settings when going back and forth between sdr and hdr. I'm not sure either of my tvs can have custom presets so I can apply it with a simple button press.
 
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