Best place to get a copy Photoshop from?

Gall1987

Gall1987

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Right, as OcUK don't sell it I take it I'm allowed to post this now, with the new forum rules. If not then please delete :)

I'm after a copy of Photoshop. What is the difference between Photoshop and Photoshop Elements? I'm guessing 8.0 is the latest version?

I've had a look on Software4Students but they don't sell it :(

Can anybody help? :)

Cheers
 
http://www.differencebetween.net/object/difference-between-photoshop-and-photoshop-elements/
http://www.thedigitalphotographyjou...nce-between-photoshop-and-photoshop-elements/

Basically Elements is a "watered down" version of Photoshop.
For the majority of home users it has absolutely everything they need.
And with the cost of Adobe software being so high it is the usual choice for home users.

Those that don't bother paying just steal the more expensive version (because they can) not that they actually need any more than Elements (in most cases).

As a student you'd be a fool not to go for full blown at the price you can get it.
 
I never understand how they can justify selling it at that price. I dont suppose they do justify it, its just what they can get away with charging(no competition etc), but who buys it? Surely if they charged less they would get more money from more sales?
 
Calabi said:
I never understand how they can justify selling it at that price. I dont suppose they do justify it, its just what they can get away with charging(no competition etc), but who buys it? Surely if they charged less they would get more money from more sales?
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Just about every design house the world over buys Photoshop and Illustrator, so they get PLENTY of sales ;)
 
But there's more individuals than there are design houses. I know thats the way they've chosen to play it, make it unavailable to the majority, have it as a kudos product.
 
Photoshop is a professional product and is priced accordingly. It's also developed accordingly - I would struggle to use Photoshop without going online for some sort of guide because I've never been trained to use it. It makes little sense to sell it for £45 to Joe Average to crop his photos and mess around with the colour a bit, which is why we have Elements.

The you have the people like us that are somewhere in between - would love to have it but can't justify the price because we'd never make any money back from it. So you either pirate it or use GIMP or Paint.net instead.
 
There is no way the cost of development is comparable to the price. The price is that high because they can, and there's few if any market pressures(new sector, no competition).
 
Biggest loss of Elements to other Photoshop versions I've experienced is the lack of masking/quick mask.

A useful method for cutting/blending layers without having to perform any destructive action to the layer.
 
Calabi said:
There is no way the cost of development is comparable to the price. The price is that high because they can, and there's few if any market pressures(new sector, no competition).
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All businesses need to seek profit. Adobe are in a good position as they have managed to build a market share, giving them a monopoly, high barriers to entry.

(God, I sound like my Economics teacher...)
 
Calabi said:
I never understand how they can justify selling it at that price. I dont suppose they do justify it, its just what they can get away with charging(no competition etc), but who buys it? Surely if they charged less they would get more money from more sales?
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Businesses. Work recently bought a few more Creative Suite licenses and I was like ZOMG SOMEONE BOUGHT A LEGIT COPY.

That's one thing I hadn't realised before working in the IT world really, licensing costs.

Windows, AV, Office, Project, Visio. That's the hardware cost of a workstation exceeded before you add on any fancy software!
 
It costs more to develop the hardware, you have to invent it, then manufacturer and distribute.

All you need is a few programmers, one programmer has managed to make software which competes with industry standard software.

These programmers must be rich... or not!

Kind of ironic these things which dont really exist exist, just as zero's and one's, cost so much.
 
Calabi said:
It costs more to develop the hardware, you have to invent it, then manufacturer and distribute.

All you need is a few programmers, one programmer has managed to make software which competes with industry standard software.

These programmers must be rich... or not!

Kind of ironic these things which dont really exist exist, just as zero's and one's, cost so much.
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Just like time. £40 an hour when hours don't exist :o
 
Calabi said:
All you need is a few programmers, one programmer has managed to make software which competes with industry standard software.
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If that were true then surely Photoshop would be dead and buried? Adobe further the product - the free alternatives generally tend to just match the new features.

Calabi said:
Kind of ironic these things which dont really exist exist, just as zero's and one's, cost so much.
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0s and 1s are just the representation of the product. By the same logic, cash is just paper.
 
theheyes said:
If that were true then surely Photoshop would be dead and buried? Adobe further the product - the free alternatives generally tend to just match the new features.



0s and 1s are just the representation of the product. By the same logic, cash is just paper.
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Not really, the name has become a verb thats entered the english language, you cant beat advertising like that.

Mostly the free alternatives are rubbish, there basically a response to the main packages so they will only ever play catch up("we wants whats in that").

I'm not saying the 0s and 1s dont have worth, it just appears that their worth far exceeds the amount of effort to create them.
 
Software obviously cost a fair amount of money to develop, they havn't stayed at the forefront by hiring rubbish programmers over the years. I haven't got any issues with them making money.

That said (and I'm sure it has probably been raised in the past), I struggle to see how Photoshop costs $699 (£433.45 at todays exchange rate) from the Adobe US Website store, whilst the same software from the UK Website store costs £627 ($1011.10 at todays exchange rate).
 
Does the UK price include VAT at 17.5% and the US one without the local sales tax?

That's normally where I see the difference in the US prices, as when you get to the checkout you have to add about 3 different kinds of taxes to the prices. Local sales tax dependent on what state you live in, US sales tax, and I think there's another.


As to the discussion on the cost question, if your a big company you very rarely pay the full price anyway as you will get into volume licence agreements and enterprise licence agreements. But where you then pay is for your support model.

Again this is where big software companies come into their own against open source and other types. If my business is dependent (and it is) on a number of pieces of software, I need a company with a 24*7 support model. So that when something goes wrong (or I can't do something I need to do) I can pick up the telephone and get straight in touch with the support team, I then expect them to fix my problems in near real time, or even build a specific patch for me and issue it to me so that I can continue to work.

With open source or freeware (e.g. Paint.net) your not going to get this, the developers are keen and helpful, but most do it in their sparetime and have real jobs to keep down, so fixes come on a best endevours basis, which when you have a couple of thousand staff reliant on a particular piece of software is not a viable option.

Taff
 
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