best TV 65inch £1300? cheap OLED or go QLED?

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looking at upgrading my TV

looking for 65inch and 4k with voice controls etc.

wont be used for gaming just films and all the general streaming services.

is a cheap OLED like the LG OLED65A16LA a bad choice? should I go QLED instead?

I'm not clued up on TV's just know I'm wanting a new one

what would people recommend in my price bracket.
 
Go for the Philips 65OLED706 otherwise go for the cheaper oled model LG OLED65A16LA as you won't be gaming on it. Although I'd wait until at least Monday to see if anything drops further in price and if can stretch £100 more the LG OLED65B16LA. However the Philips will do every format has ambilight and dropped to your price now, so would be my choice.
 
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can you recommend any in my price bracket?

The Samsung QE65QN90A is the go to, but it’s a little over budget.

The Sony XR65X90J will be a decent alternative.



OLEDs are great, but regardless of what people will tell you on here, there are downsides to the technology which I think makes it a worse choice for the majority of people, yourself included.


A full array backlit LCD will have good enough contrast for the majority of settings (except for in a super dark room perhaps, but only when compared to an OLED), but it doesn’t have risk of “burn in” or uneven pixel wearing, and it’ll be significantly brighter, which is useful when viewing during the day.
 
Don't worry about the scaremongering person above. I'd suggest you view Oled and Qled yourself if you can and see which you prefer. Both are good and viable, but for your price range the oleds mention beat anything close to the exact same price of a Qled.
 
Don't worry about the scaremongering person above. I'd suggest you view Oled and Qled yourself if you can and see which you prefer. Both are good and viable, but for your price range the oleds mention beat anything close to the exact same price of a Qled.

I’m not sure if you’re serious or this is a poor attempt to bait/troll, but it’s usually best to come up with a reasonable counter argument to prove a point, rather than saying “don’t worry about scaremongering”.

If you don’t understand how OLED works, fair enough, but there’s always the opportunity to learn :-)


I own an OLED, so I’m very familiar with the technology and, as mentioned, it’s limitations. Hence my recommendation above.


For the majority of people who don’t want to actively think about the content they’re watching, and want a bright image during the day, FALD LCD will be the better option.
 
I have a 65" Q9FN FALD Sammy and a 65"C9 Oled... They are both great TV's but yes limitations to both.
OLED...most cinematic, esp at night with lights off...Look awesome, I use it for xbox as well, not seen screen burn so far...downside is that our living room is South facing with French doors...during a sunny day I struggle to see the TV. I have to draw the curtains to watch anything and it still looks washed out
QLED...can get extremely bright...no problem watching tv during the day. When watching film at night with FALD I don't see the TV screen in black scenes, and don't see grey bars when watching a film. You do get localised blooming though and in Gravity, where Sandra Bullock is spinning and floating away in space, when she rotates and her helmet is lit up, the stars in the background dim, whereas the OLED star scape stars the same. We have this TV downstairs that the kids use all the time and 80% of the time they on Xbox, otherwise I would 100% switch the TV's, but don't want them to have OLED, as with the amount of gaming, I'm sure I'd have screen burn issues....my previous TV was a 50" pioneer Kuro 9th gen...no probs at all, 6 months with kids, and I have fornite screen burn starting, hence why they got the Sammy and we then got an oled. When viewing Sammy, I don't think to myself, 'Oh, I wish I was watching the Oled'...they are both excellent TV's.
for remote and everything, I prefer the Sammy..when we turn xbox on, it automatically switches channel to xbox, also the menu knows and puts a icon in the menu system for xbox..the lg webos doesn't, so I have to press the little wire button, then choose the xbox hdmi connection to switch..there is no way of getting it into the card app system ...not the end of the world and am used to it now..At least it says Xbox.
I'd say if you're room doesn't have direct sunlight etc and you really want cinematic look, OLED, but if the room is light and sunny, go QLED...not sure you can stretch to the new NEO sets, but they go almost as dark as an oled. If going Qled, you need FALD(Full array light dimming). I tried a 65Q7 edge lit before getting the Q9, and the light bleed was ***p..Dark scenes, you could see the LED around the side, putting bleed into the screen. Sent it back immediately...so wouldnt do budget qled
So, both TV's excellent, OLED wins in dark room setting, QLED light room
 
I’m not sure if you’re serious or this is a poor attempt to bait/troll, but it’s usually best to come up with a reasonable counter argument to prove a point, rather than saying “don’t worry about scaremongering”.

If you don’t understand how OLED works, fair enough, but there’s always the opportunity to learn :)


I own an OLED, so I’m very familiar with the technology and, as mentioned, it’s limitations. Hence my recommendation above.


For the majority of people who don’t want to actively think about the content they’re watching, and want a bright image during the day, FALD LCD will be the better option.

Your first post to the OP has no arguement, so don't tell me about putting a point across. You tell them Qled would be better when you don't even ask them what their room setup is like which would have been the first question.

You then provide them TVs over budget. For what they asked for price wise there isn't a Qled that would beat the oleds picture wise even in a fairly lit room.

I'm well aware of how oleds work I own one, but I didn't necessarily push him to one, they are just best for his price range, hence my second post saying he should try go view them both and see what suits him.

As for burnin, technology has come a long way and I'm not going to get into this arguement that always comes up here.

There's plenty of reviews as well and Oled tops them all and are king for movies which is going to be their main source of content.

I'm not knocking QLED's, but when Samsung will be introducing Oled panels themselves next year it makes a big statement.
 
Tbh this bright room dark room stuff is nonsense, OLED is great for both. 65" C9 and 65" Q9FN here, any room the picture on OLED is just better, its as simple as that.
 
Tbh this bright room dark room stuff is nonsense, OLED is great for both. 65" C9 and 65" Q9FN here, any room the picture on OLED is just better, its as simple as that.

I’m not sure what your room orientation is at home, so I cannot comment on your case specifically, but I have a south facing window in my front room, to which my OLED is perpendicular to, so on a sunny day when the sun is shining through the window, I cannot see the screen too well for most content, and during darker scenes it’s not visible at all, even with higher brightness.

At night, if I have my lamp on and sit slightly off axis to the TV such that I can see the lamp in the TV, I again cannot see very well during darker scenes, unless HDR is enabled.


I had no such issue with my previous TV which was a FALD set, where I could just increase the brightness, and I don’t have the issue with my monitor, which is also perpendicular to a south facing window, since the monitor can achieve >300 nits sustained brightness on 100% window.
 
Your first post to the OP has no arguement, so don't tell me about putting a point across.

Im not making a counter argument - your reply was emotion based, not logic and reason based.

I’ve made the assumption, so that I can respond to the post, that OP probably doesn’t have a light controlled room, since he’s asking which TV to get in the first place. Someone asking what the different types of TVs are probably doesn’t know that it’s a consideration.


As for burnin, technology has come a long way and I'm not going to get into this arguement that always comes up here.

I hear this too often, and it suggests you don’t understand what OLED is in the first place, nor what burn in actually is.

You then provide them TVs over budget.

A. I stated the Samsung was over budget, and so provided an alternative option. I don’t know when OP is planning to make their purchase decision, so there is a chance it’ll be within budget when they do.

B. The Sony is £1169 at Argos with code TV10, so not sure how that’s over budget?


I'm not knocking QLED's, but when Samsung will be introducing Oled panels themselves next year it makes a big statement.

It says they’ve identified a market opportunity, since there’s only a single manufacturer of OLED panels for TVs currently.
 
I hear this too often, and it suggests you don’t understand what OLED is in the first place, nor what burn in actually is.

If you say so, there's been plenty of arguments on these forums about it, I don't feel the need to jeopardise the thread. If you want to go down that route, feel free to email me in trust and we can go back and forth on that. However, I bought my TV to enjoy it and I am confident in the latest models to not worry about it. Like buying a nice car then being too afraid to enjoy it, just drive the damn thing. For someone who also owns an Oled, you seem to be very against them. Samsung have started mass producing the panels this month actually, going hybrid mode.
 
Oled everytime.

Don't understand people's comments about brightness. I have my brightness dialed down as it's too bright even in daytime with the curtains open.

The difference in colour quality and contrast is just on another level.
 
If you say so, there's been plenty of arguments on these forums about it, I don't feel the need to jeopardise the thread. If you want to go down that route, feel free to email me in trust and we can go back and forth on that. However, I bought my TV to enjoy it and I am confident in the latest models to not worry about it. Like buying a nice car then being too afraid to enjoy it, just drive the damn thing. For someone who also owns an Oled, you seem to be very against them. Samsung have started mass producing the panels this month actually, going hybrid mode.

Ultimately, my posts towards OLEDs are ALWAYS to educate people on the technology, so they can make an informed purchase decision.

Burn in = uneven pixel wearing, due to the inherent characteristic of the technology (different pixels with a given life span wearing at different rates due to being illuminated at different times).

Then there’s the aspect of different size sub pixels depending on colour.



Samsung are taking a different approach, probably in part due to patents, and more likely to combat the sub pixel size requirements and different colour wear rates.


Their approach is to use a blue OLED panel with quantum dot filter over the top, which is what controls the colour output, rather than using the OLED itself to do it.


Time will tell, but I suspect it’ll be another step towards reducing the varying wear rates of the organic LEDs.



I love my OLED, and I’d never have a different display - my favourite characteristic is the motion clarity.

However, I’m not blind to the disadvantages of the technology. I’ve just accepted it.



I understand that different people have different priorities, and having worked in John Lewis selling TVs, I can assure you that your average consumer wants a TV they can see more clearly in their living room, without having to consider any other downsides due to the way they use it. I.e. they just “want it work”


This takes me back to OP and their situation. I made certain assumptions based on my experience selling TVs to people.


I even gave them some basic reasoning behind my decision to give them the opportunity to reply, either agreeing with my assumptions or disagreeing.

I then followed up with a couple of recommendations, one which is over budget, but I consider to be the best all-round LCD TV you can buy, and another which offers similar performance within budget.



So, OP, long story short, your options depend upon your circumstances.


For most people, I recommend LCDs since they’re better for:

  • Sustained brightness output
  • Motion with 24Hz content (since LCDs exhibit natural motion blur, whereas OLEDs don’t)
  • Setting up and forgetting about it, if you’re the type of individual to concern yourself about burn in


OLEDs are better in every other way and, for me, is the only technology which gives me the “wow” factor.
 
Tbh this bright room dark room stuff is nonsense, OLED is great for both. 65" C9 and 65" Q9FN here, any room the picture on OLED is just better, its as simple as that.
Sorry, must be my eyes then, but I can't see the screen, or nor can anyone else in my house...giving my opinion, sorry you disagree with it, but don't tell me I'm talking ***p please. I clearly stated oled in any other situation produces a more cinematic picture, but in brightly lit room, the Qled wins out of the 2 TV's I have...just saying it's a consideration and i don't know where OP is putting there TV. I'm currently getting a 55" for a friend and have recommended oled, but also put QledQ80a in there also as it's £800 compared to £1,199 for C1 or 1,099 for B1 oled...that's a 50% increase in cost of the TV from the qled to c1...cost is a factor also when buying, and when sitting at home you don't sit next to the best TV in the world, you just see the tv in front of you, and picture quality is good, not as good as oled, but still good
...as for the LG 'a' series oled, no 2.1 hdmi, uses a7gen4 chip and isn't a 120Hz panel and no VRR etc...if you can afford it B series gives 2 hdmi 2.1 and 120hz etc but has the weaker chip(a7gen4), C seies 4 hdmi 2.1 and premium chip(a9 gen4) and g series new Evo panel that goes brighter than old panel(C1 panel is same as my C9 panel)...
so OP asked for gaming, and 'A' series is not a gaming oled with 60Hz screen and no VRR, so would recommend B series rather than A series but it's £1,499 so £200 over budget...If £1,300 is top budget, then that's out

as side note, recommend Vincent for TV reviews at HDTVTest...below is review of best 5 TV's this year..4 oled, 1 qled...Best Living room TV came out as Sony A90J(also best TV overall), followed by Samsung QN95A Qled, because it can handle bright rooms better
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zCSAdW3Wejk&ab_channel=HDTVTest
 
SNIP


So, OP, long story short, your options depend upon your circumstances.


For most people, I recommend LCDs since they’re better for:

  • Sustained brightness output
  • Motion with 24Hz content (since LCDs exhibit natural motion blur, whereas OLEDs don’t)
  • Setting up and forgetting about it, if you’re the type of individual to concern yourself about burn in


OLEDs are better in every other way and, for me, is the only technology which gives me the “wow” factor.

i have a living room with curtains, we do often watch in daylight but patio doors south facing means the screen will often be in daylight so we just close the curtains, my current TV I cant see much at all in full daylight due to the screen reflecting hard back at me.

Burn in would be a concern as the mrs is terrible for pausing the TV and buggering off leaving it on.

so it seems a QLED would be the better choice? my knowledge of TV's is little to non, all i know is 65 is bigger than 55.

my current TV is a 55inch 7-8 year old Hisense and its showing its age so wanting to upgrade.

with all that in mind and my top budget being 1300 is the SONY XR65X90J the top choice?
 
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