Best TV for 1K?

FunkyT · 21 Apr 2007 at 20:51

Is there a particular make/model that seems to a favourite?

OneWingedAngel · 21 Apr 2007 at 21:26

panasonic th42px70 plasma can be had with either pedestal or wall mount for a touch under £900.

Alternately the 55" sony a2000 sxrd 1080p rear projection tv can be had for £1070 including glass stand.

If you've got the space I'd go for the sony (and I am

), otherwise the panasonic is also a brilliant screen.

FunkyT · 22 Apr 2007 at 08:23

Thanks dude - the Panasonic looks great!

Energize · 22 Apr 2007 at 12:44

Best tv for £1000 completley depends on size you want and use. Eg plasma and rp are not ideal for pc use.

FunkyT · 22 Apr 2007 at 13:27

Unlikely to be used for PC (but may be).

I'm thinking something in the order of 37-42".

Just noticed the Sony KDL-40W2000 LCD. Looks ace but can't seem to get one for less than £1300

Energize · 22 Apr 2007 at 13:39

The samsung LE40M87BDX is £1100, has 3x hdmi and a comparable picture to the sony W series, but without the awful clouding. It supposedly has the best contrast of all lcds as well. Quoted ratio being 15,000:1.

The Asgard · 22 Apr 2007 at 15:46

FunkyT said:
Unlikely to be used for PC (but may be).

I'm thinking something in the order of 37-42".

Just noticed the Sony KDL-40W2000 LCD. Looks ace but can't seem to get one for less than £1300

Avoid the Sony at all costs. Clouding is aweful and a real problem. Just ordered a LE40M87BDX replacement.

FunkyT · 22 Apr 2007 at 15:47

The Asgard said:
Avoid the Sony at all costs. Clouding is aweful and a real problem. Just ordered a LE40M87BDX replacement.

Thanks dude.

Seems that this is typical with most Sonys?

james.miller · 22 Apr 2007 at 15:52

people get bad units, it a problem yes. i got a really good one. and im happy with it

The Asgard · 22 Apr 2007 at 17:12

james.miller said:
people get bad units, it a problem yes. i got a really good one. and im happy with it

More chance of a bad one from my investigation. Mate bought one and he didn't realise until I pointed the problem out. With some people it might not be an issue but for that money it shouldn't be an issue.

Abyss · 22 Apr 2007 at 18:34

Energize said:
The samsung LE40M87BDX is £1100, has 3x hdmi and a comparable picture to the sony W series, but without the awful clouding. It supposedly has the best contrast of all lcds as well. Quoted ratio being 15,000:1.

I'd pretty much disregard the 15,000:1 contrast ratio, there's no way an LCD can have that realistically.

Energize · 22 Apr 2007 at 18:58

Abyss said:
I'd pretty much disregard the 15,000:1 contrast ratio, there's no way an LCD can have that realistically.

I know. Every tv is a few thousand below the quoted ratio. Well unless it's a crt.

OneWingedAngel · 22 Apr 2007 at 19:10

more important than the contrast ratio is the black level, and no conventionally lit lcd can offer blacks as good as a plasma.

Abyss · 22 Apr 2007 at 20:44

Energize said:
I know. Every tv is a few thousand below the quoted ratio. Well unless it's a crt.

A CRT is in reality usually in the hundreds, probably around the same at the 15,000:1 Samsung

OneWingedAngel said:
more important than the contrast ratio is the black level, and no conventionally lit lcd can offer blacks as good as a plasma.

In simple terms they are related I believe.

OneWingedAngel · 22 Apr 2007 at 20:52

while a contrast ratio is a measure of the difference between the brightest white and deepest black, it doesn't describe how black the blacks are. For the panel to operate at its quoted contrast ratio the screens contrast would have to be turned to its highest settings which would make the picture unwatchable. LCD's usually get higher contrast ratios by making the whites brighter, yet the blacks are still washed out greys.

Until alternative backlighting methods are used this will remain lcd's biggest downfall.

Due to the superior richer blacks, a plasma produces a superior image to a LCD in the vast majority of applications, especially TV, Movies and games, even if the contrast ratio is lower, the percievable contrast is higher, and the spread on the contrast range is far more favourable to viewing the material.

Abyss · 22 Apr 2007 at 21:05

OneWingedAngel said:
For the panel to operate at its quoted contrast ratio the screens contrast would have to be turned to its highest settings which would make the picture unwatchable. LCD's usually get higher contrast ratios by making the whites brighter, yet the blacks are still washed out greys.

I was under the belief that LCDs achieved their quoted contrast ratio through dynamic contrast. E.g. when the screen is showing full white, it ups the contrast to its maximum, when the screen is showing full black, it drops the contrast to the minimum. The only fair way to test a screen is therefore to display a chess board like checkerboard, so that black and white are displayed at the same time.

Energize · 22 Apr 2007 at 21:39

Abyss said:
A CRT is in reality usually in the hundreds, probably around the same at the 15,000:1 Samsung

Since a crt can almost completley cut off any light to an area of the screen it would have an infinite contrast ratio, same goes for plasmas.