BF4 or Arma III? (this was meant to be a Poll but I cant find the option)

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Which one do you think you will be buying/playing?

To me, there seems to be two choices of big multiplayer online shooters on the horizon which will be dominant on the PC in the coming months/years.

I have been a big fan of the BF series of games since BF2 on which I clocked over 1500 hours of gametime. I also thoroughly enjoyed BFBC2 and also BF3. However, with BF3, I am seeing signs that the series is going predominantly in an Activision CoD inspired direction that I don't like.

I don't like most of the maps or expansion packs and only ever play B2K or the vanilla fly maps. Practically every map outwith those, I find to be nothing more than a explosion and bullet spamming kackfest. There are also a couple of good ones in the Armored Kill expansion (Armoured Shield + Death Valley), but I cant play these maps these days as I cant find a populated server running them that isn't 'Premium Only'. Of course, whilst Operation Metro may get the ALT F4 treatment from a large proportion of BF3 gamers, it is well known that Metro CQ is the most 'popular' (in terms of numbers of people playing on it). Clearly, the sort of gameplay that Metro offers is where the money is at. EA know this and the pressure will be on DICE to give the people 'what they want', as perhaps was seen with Close Quarters and Aftermath (I never tried End Game). Complimenting the dumbed down level design is of course the dumbed down gameplay (over BF2), and I really hate the fact that the retarded flight mechanics that allow aircraft to be most manoeuvreable using mouse n keyboard.

ARMA III on the otherhand, seems to be offering something that has been designed by creatives under much less influence from the money men who are interested only in the bottom line. The aim is for a much more realistic shooter, occurring within a vast sandbox which is based on a 3d virtual copy of a realworld greek island. Presumably the gameplay is aiming much more for realism and will require a much more patient and measured approach to it than with BF3. The game will be hugely moddable and there will be no lmits other than hardware limits placed upon how large (in terms of players) that a server can be. Furthermore, ARMA III will be supporting all the kinds of immersion increasing specialist toys that we PC gamers like, such as proper flight stick functionality and Track IR (turning head to look around in-game, lean around corners etc).

Having become a little sick n tired of the way that the BF series is panning out, I have pre-ordered ARMA III bought a decent flight stick and am pondering over Track IR. The thing is, I do actually like 'arcade' gameplay (BF2 afterall could only be described as arcade) and do wonder whether I will find ARMA III a bit stale and lacing in action in the long run and end up jumping into a BF4 game with double helpings of Op Metro!
 
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As I explained in the BF4 thread, completely different games.

ARMA is a simulator above anything. Realism and proper tactical based gameplay.

BF4 is an action fps, jump in shoot everything, blow everything up etc etc. Tactics involved but not on the same scale.

Both fun in their own ways. Some people hate ARMA, some people hate BF, some of us hate them both or love them both.

Only you can make the decision on which one you like, personally I've already bought ARMA 3 and will be getting BF4 on release.
 
On phone, so won't give a huge answer. All I'll say is, trackir gives you more visual awareness in any game I have used it in. For arma, it is nearly a necessity, flying is a different experience wish it , infantry gives you more of a fov, as in moving your head an inch, can move your in game head 90 degrees.

To be honest, I wouldn't be without it now.
 
As I explained in the BF4 thread, completely different games.

I can't see me playing both just as I wouldn't play CoD when I had a BF game to play or just as most people dont play FIFA and Pro Evo Soccer. If I find that I can really get into ARMA III, then BF4 most likely wont even get bought (just as I dont buy CoD games).

They may be different games, but they both are appealing to the large scale multiplayer PC market and I think that the introduction of ARMA III, with a level of hype and fanfare that ARMA II just didn't have, could serve to split online shooter gamers into different camps.

Although I am going to be trying out ARMA III, I am as of yet unsure which camp I myself will fall into.

To be honest, I wouldn't be without [Track IR] now.

Do you attach it to a headset or do you use a headband. I dont use a headset and this is one of the stumbling blocks. I really dont fancy sitting wearing a baseball cap everytime I game.
 
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Couldn't tell you. You may as well be asking me Starcraft 2 or Dota 2. I can only say that BF4 will certainly feature more for someone looking for a quick fix to just drop into - ArmA 3 just due to the nature of the scope of the game will take that down a notch, you then have to do some work on your own in trying out new missions (as the MP is mostly user mission driven) and then keeping upto date with them etc.

Infact I'm going to make an executive decision on your behalf. Get BF4 now, then all those months later when it's getting a bit stale and you're looking for something new, grab ArmA 3.
 
In my opinion you shouldn't even be thinking about Arma 3 if you don't or are not willing to use a headset. (unless you are playing SP only of course, based on your BF2 time im guessing not)
 
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Never used a headset and I enjoy ARMA thoroughly, as long as you listen to comms you're fine, obviously if you want to lead or give commands then a headset is 100% needed.
 
Also, you said you would not buy both FIFA and PES as a comparison to buying BF4 & Arma. There's totally no comparison. You could happily play both, get two totally different experiences and enjoy the heck out of both.
 
I have a mic which can be operated either by voice or at touch of button........... this would be my preferred way of games comms but if I really have to get a headset (and the game seems worth it) then I will.

The point of 'not playing with a headset' is that the Track IR kind of relies on pointer being attached to headset for best functionality.
 
I'm looking forward to both but for different reasons. For a quick frag BF all the way but for teamwork,tactics and coop definitely Arma.
 
Which one do you think you will be buying/playing?

To me, there seems to be two choices of big multiplayer online shooters on the horizon which will be dominant on the PC in the coming months/years.

I have been a big fan of the BF series of games since BF2 on which I clocked over 1500 hours of gametime. I also thoroughly enjoyed BFBC2 and also BF3. However, with BF3, I am seeing signs that the series is going predominantly in an Activision CoD inspired direction that I don't like.

I don't like most of the maps or expansion packs and only ever play B2K or the vanilla fly maps. Practically every map outwith those, I find to be nothing more than a explosion and bullet spamming kackfest. There are also a couple of good ones in the Armored Kill expansion (Armoured Shield + Death Valley), but I cant play these maps these days as I cant find a populated server running them that isn't 'Premium Only'. Of course, whilst Operation Metro may get the ALT F4 treatment from a large proportion of BF3 gamers, it is well known that Metro CQ is the most 'popular' (in terms of numbers of people playing on it). Clearly, the sort of gameplay that Metro offers is where the money is at. EA know this and the pressure will be on DICE to give the people 'what they want', as perhaps was seen with Close Quarters and Aftermath (I never tried End Game). Complimenting the dumbed down level design is of course the dumbed down gameplay (over BF2), and I really hate the fact that the retarded flight mechanics that allow aircraft to be most manoeuvreable using mouse n keyboard.

ARMA III on the otherhand, seems to be offering something that has been designed by creatives under much less influence from the money men who are interested only in the bottom line. The aim is for a much more realistic shooter, occurring within a vast sandbox which is based on a 3d virtual copy of a realworld greek island. Presumably the gameplay is aiming much more for realism and will require a much more patient and measured approach to it than with BF3. The game will be hugely moddable and there will be no lmits other than hardware limits placed upon how large (in terms of players) that a server can be. Furthermore, ARMA III will be supporting all the kinds of immersion increasing specialist toys that we PC gamers like, such as proper flight stick functionality and Track IR (turning head to look around in-game, lean around corners etc).

Having become a little sick n tired of the way that the BF series is panning out, I have pre-ordered ARMA III bought a decent flight stick and am pondering over Track IR. The thing is, I do actually like 'arcade' gameplay (BF2 afterall could only be described as arcade) and do wonder whether I will find ARMA III a bit stale and lacing in action in the long run and end up jumping into a BF4 game with double helpings of Op Metro!

play both as they both compliment eachother
 
Hmm. I'm tempted by Arma, but as my gaming time is fairly limited to an hour or two an evening, I think BF3/4 offers much more instant enjoyment.
 
could buy both arma 3 wont be good for a year yet. its a mess at moment but look at arma 2 once it matured became great im hoping this happens to arma 3.

bf4 is bf3 so if you like that its just more of same with new maps EA have took one more step closer to copying the cod business plan.
 
Both - For different reasons.

Anyone who wants to draw a meaningful comparison has no idea what each/both titles are about.

Perhaps you are right. Until I opened this thread, I never even realised that coop missions were the main thrust and drive of the ARMA III multiplayer game.

But I am getting sick of the CoD-isation of online shooters and I think lots of other people are also, and are therefore waiting on 'the big alternative' to come along. Perhaps ARMA III is not going to be a direct competitor to the BF series (or CoD series for that matter), but it certainly is offering a lot of the elements, that used to be a mainstay of PC gaming, but have been on the wane in recent years....hugely flexible modding potential.....support for all the cool toys.....challenging gameplay mechanics.....in short, ARMA is a proper PC game, that would only really be possible to implement on the PC platform. This is surely what most PC gamers want, although perhaps something along these lines with a bit more emphasis on fast paced action?

could buy both arma 3 wont be good for a year yet. its a mess at moment but look at arma 2 once it matured became great im hoping this happens to arma 3.

Hope this isn't true. Besides, until this weekend, nobody knows what ARMA III is like as it is still in Beta.
 
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what ? people have been playing arma 3 already :confused:

things will probably get fixed and tweaked but BI arnt a rush and do it they plod along so don't expect instant fixes. they do great work its just it aint fast.


thats why i said 6-12 months.
 
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